Odle v. Charcoal Iron Co. of America

187 N.W. 243, 217 Mich. 469, 1922 Mich. LEXIS 1002
CourtMichigan Supreme Court
DecidedMarch 30, 1922
DocketDocket No. 16
StatusPublished
Cited by16 cases

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Odle v. Charcoal Iron Co. of America, 187 N.W. 243, 217 Mich. 469, 1922 Mich. LEXIS 1002 (Mich. 1922).

Opinion

Clark, J.

Certiorari to the industrial accident board. Was the plaintiff an employee or an independent contractor at the time he suffered the accidental personal injury? If the former, the award must be affirmed, and if the latter, it must be vacated.

Plaintiff, using his horse and harness and assisted by his son, was skidding cedar for the defendant Char-. coal Iron Company under an agreement, of which defendant’s chief clerk testified:

“Q. Mr. Graham, do you know the nature of the contract and the method of payment of the jobbers who do jobbing work for the Charcoal Iron Company?
“A. Yes, sir.
“Q. What is the method in which that’s handled? .
“A. In this particular case, this man was on for a skidding contract, skidding cedar poles; a certain portion of the country to go over and that was allotted to him to go over, and he goes and takes the poles out as he comes to them; drags the stump out to the sidings and he receives his pay every time he checks up. We used to endeavor to check up once a month, [471]*471only that brought out was paid for, the different pieces, and all sizes and pieces.
“Q. He is paid on the basis of what he places on?
“A. Yes.
“Q. Is he assigned a certain section?
“A. Yes.
“Q. Can he employ others to help him, if he wishes?
“A. He can, yes, sir.
“Q. These men are never paid by the Charcoal Iron Company?
“A. Not without the contract would ask them to pay.
“Q. What would be the reason to have those men paid by themselves?
“A. The only idea is that if the job be a big one he may have to have help. Some get along well and others don’t. They probably wouldn’t depend on their employer and would come to the office force and ask them to help them out.
“Q. There’s no contract of employment between the company and thet men in the case?
“A. No.
“Q. Was there any contract of employment between the company and the son of George Odle?
“A, No, sir.
“Q. In respect to these camps, is there any regulations in regard to the hours of labor; report at a certain time?
“A. No; no particular time at all.
“Q. Is there anyone from the company who regulates just how they shall make their roads?
“A. Use their own judgment.
“Q. Anyone to say which road or pole first?
“A. No; up to the fellow that’s skidding.
“Q. Has to get it out to the side?
“A. Yes.
“Q. Has to come up to schedule?
“A. Yes, sir.
“Q. If it isn’t up to specifications, he’s docked?
“A. There isn’t much docking in the skidding proposition because it cost the skidder as much to skid a pole — could be docked at any time.
' “Q. Who furnished the tools, etc., that this work was done with?
[472]*472“A. In this case, Mr. Odie had his own horse and harness, the short nature of his own outfit, all he needed, an axe, tongs, a chain or two. At the camps, they are very lenient with these men, and could always borrow anything.
“Q. They were loaned to them?
“A. Just loaned him whatever—
“Q. Was there any foreman directly over this man?
“A. Well, of course he worked under a foreman, but this foreman never interfered with him, and if he was getting out stuff enough to be showing he was making enough headway; if he was doing fairly well, there was nothing said, but if very little, probably jacked up about it; would have to hustle a little.
“Q. What was desired by the company? Was it the clearing of the section and the placing of these poles?
“A. Getting these poles and posts out on the track, where they could be loaded, the sooner the better.
“Q. You had no interest in what kind of a horse or—
“A. No, nothing at all; used anything he wanted to.
“Q. Hired as many men as he wanted to?
“A. Yes.
“Q. Could he use a sleigh if he wanted to?
“A.' Sleigh, drays. Some of the contractors do in the winter time. Some work is only short stuff, when they probably use a dray and skid it out; but the jobber uses his own methods of getting it out; up to him. * * *
“A. As far as Mr. Odle’s ease was specified, he was shown a piece of track or swamp to clear up. He could take that out along the track as he saw fit. The company had the right to let him go any time they wanted to. It’s only a matter to get what’s already cut there and clean it up. His work goes through this skidding and if it ain’t all cleaned up, if not cleared, he docks him.
“Mr. Baird: If Mr._Odie had not been handling that work to the satisfaction of the company, they would simply discharge him?
“A. Yes.”

[473]*473Plaintiff testified:

“Q. Your boy worked with you?
“A. Yes, sir.
“Q. Who paid the boy?
“A. The check was always made out to me.
“Q. Who owned the horse that you worked with?
"A. I did.
“Q. So that this amount that you were getting there, was for yourself and the horse, was it?
“A. Yes, and the boy. * * *
“Q. You fed this horse yourself? Kept it at home?
“A. Yes.
“Q. Did you have any tools there besides the horse and harness?
“A. Had an axe;.not my own; had to get it from the company.
“Q. Using your own most of the time?
“A. Pretty much.
“Q.

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