Murray v. Coster

4 Cow. 617
CourtCourt for the Trial of Impeachments and Correction of Errors
DecidedJune 15, 1825
StatusPublished
Cited by12 cases

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Bluebook
Murray v. Coster, 4 Cow. 617 (N.Y. Super. Ct. 1825).

Opinion

Sutherland, J.

(after stating the case.) The first and principal question which arises, is, whether the appellants, after their plea of the statute of limitations had been overruled, were at liberty to insist on the same matter by way of ansiuer. If it should be held that they were not, then the exceptions to the answer are clearly well taken; as the appellants, being deprived of their bar to the relief sought, were bound to answer fully to all the matters contained" in the bill.

The point stated.

But if they were entitled to set up the same defence by way of answer, which had been passed upon and overruled, when offered by way of pica, it still remains to be considered, whether, having undertaken to answer, they were not bound to make discovery, and answer fully as to every thing that would not take away or destroy the defence of the statute of limitations.

The general position, that if a plea is overruled, the defendant may insist on the same matter by way of answer, is certainly to be found in treatises on the practice and proceedings in Chancery, of high and established character. But, like most other general propositions, it is subject to limitations and exceptions; and the extent to which it is true, can only be accurately understood by an examination of the cases from which it professedly derives its authority, and from a consideration of its bearing and effect upon other general principles of fundamental truth and importance in the administration of every system of justice. The cases which were cited and relied on by the defendant’s counsel [621]*621to sustain their position, are Harris v. Ingledew, (3 P. Wms. 91,) Stephens v. Gaule, (2 Vern. 701,) Finch v. Finch, (2 Ves. Sen. 491,) East India Co. v. Campbel, (1 Ves. Sen. 246,) and The Earl of Suffolk v. Green, (1 Atk. 450.)

Harris v. Ingledew, 3 P. Wms. 91.

Harris v. Ingledew, (3 P. Wms. 91,) was a case of a bill filed by the simple contract creditors of William Ingledew, after his death, to compel a sale of his real estate for payment of his debts ; he having devised his real estate subject to the payment of his debts. The bill' was filed against the devisees and others who had purchased portions of the real estate from them. One of the defendants who had thus purchased, pleaded that he was a purchaser for a full and valuable consideration, but omitted in his plea to deny notice of the will of William Ingledew. The plaintiff replied, and took issue on the plea; and the question was, whether the plaintiff, by replying to the plea, instead of setting it down to be argued, and excepting to it, had not admitted it to be a good defence in law, provided it was true in fact. And the counsel of the defendant, among other reasons which he urged in support of his position, contended that if the legal efficacy of the plea was not admitted by the replication, “ the defendant might be tricked by the plaintiff, who having found that the defendant had made a slip in his plea, might decline setting it down for argument, and reply to it, in which case the defendant would be without remedy ; for he could do no more than prove his plea; whereas, if such plea had been set down to be argued, on its being overruled, the defendant might still have helped himself by putting all his defence in his answer. The Master of the Rolls, in deciding this point, simply says, the constant course is, in case a plea be replied to, that the defendant need only prove his plea, &c.; and takes no notice of the consideration which had been urged by counsel. He neither adopts nor repels it. This case, therefore, furnishes no authority in support of the position for which it was cited. But if the language of the counsel in that case had in truth been the language of the Court, as the Chancellor, in his opinion, seems to suppose it was, it would not affect this case : first, for the reason assigned by the Chancellor, that it does not appear that the Court would not [622]*622have required the answer to meet fully all the charges in the bill.” But, secondly, and I think principally, because a purchase for a valuable consideration, -without notice of a previous charge, is both in form and substance a very different defence from a purchase for a valuable consideration, merely. In overruling the latter, therefore, when offered by way of plea, the Court would not have passed upon and decided the former. No reason, therefore, could exist, why it should not be put forth as a defence, by way of answer, if it was originally proper matter for an answer.

Finch v. Finch, 2 Ves. Sen. 491.

In Finch v. Finch, (2 Ves. Sen. 491,) all the Court decided was, that a defendant, whose answer had been reported to be insufficient, and who, without excepting to the report, had submitted to answer again, was not precluded from insisting on the same matter in his second answer. Lord Hardwicke said that it was not a proper manner of bringing the matter before the Court; but that the defendant was not absolutely precluded by the forms of the Court from doing it; that where there are several exceptions, the Court has always said, that as this matter has not undergone the judgment of the Court, they shall be suffered to go into it. If it was a single exception, perhaps it would be another matter. That it was not like a second demurrer, or a second plea, which can not be put in a second time, if overruled. - Yet, he remarked, “ the Court frequently allows the defendant, after it has overruled a plea, to insist on the .same matter by answer ; and that comes on ■the merits at hearing the cause;” taking the well established distinction, that the Court will not, after a demurrer , or a plea is overruled, grant leave to put in a second demurrer or a second plea, containing the same matter; but that it will sometimes, after a plea is overruled, permit the defendant to insist on the same matter by answer. And if he answer fully, his right again to insist on the same matter maybe reserved for discussion on the hearing upon the merits, instead of being determined upon exceptions. But if he set up the same matter in order to protect him from discovery, his right to avail himself of it ought to be determined upon excéptions, and not upon the hearing on the merits. In the first case, it may, perhaps, be put in without [623]*623leave having been first obtained in the latter, it clearly ought not. The case of Finch v. Finch, therefore, decides nothing that has any application to this case; and the illustration used by Lord Harwicke seems to me very clearly to show that, in a case like this, he would not have listened to a defence by way of answer, which had under gone the judgment of the Court, and been overruled by way of plea.

E. India Co. v. Campbel, 1 Ves. Sen. 246.

The East India Company v. Campbel, (1 Ves. Sen. 246,) was an information brought in the name of the attorney general, to compel .the defendant to discover how he came by the possession of certain goods in the East Indies; whether it was not by fraud.or violence; and whether they were not the property of the Indians.

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