DECISION AND ORDER DENYING MOTIONS TO WITHDRAW REFERENCE TO BANKRUPTCY JUDGE AND CERTIFICATION FOR INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL
HAUK, District Judge.
This matter arises out of bankruptcy litigation involving the Chapter X Estate of the Pacific Homes Corporation, a California non-profit corporation which operates retirement homes and health care facilities providing residential and convalescent care to approximately 1,700 senior citizens. The motion before the Court raises a single and narrow, but complex legal question: Does a bankruptcy judge-referee in a Chapter X bankruptcy proceeding possess jurisdiction over a plenary action for negligence, breach of fiduciary duties, mismanagement, and waste brought by a Chapter X Trustee and referred by the District Court to the Bankruptcy judge-referee, when the defendants to the action file timely objections to the jurisdiction of the Bankruptcy judge-referee?
I. BACKGROUND
The Pacific Homes Corporation (hereinafter Pacific Homes), a California non-profit corporation, owns and operates convalescent care and residential care facilities for senior citizens in several states, including [854] California.1 Pacific Homes became financially distressed2 and, in February 1977, filed a petition in this District for an arrangement of its financial affairs under Chapter XI of the. Bankruptcy Act, 11 U.S.C. § 701 et seq. Under our Local Rules applicable to assignment of bankruptcy cases,3 Bankruptcy Judge James E. Moriarty received this case. After proceeding in Chapter XI for several months, Pacific Homes determined that it could not confirm a plan of arrangement, and thereupon petitioned to convert the Chapter XI proceeding into a corporate reorganization under Chapter X of the Bankruptcy Act, 11 U.S.C. §§ 501-676.
Under the Local Rules governing the assignment of bankruptcy cases,4 this Court received this case. On November 4, 1977, this Court, after a hearing on the matter, referred to Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty the question of whether the Chapter XI proceeding should be converted into a Chapter X procfeedings. On November 11, 1977, the Court entered a written order of reference to that effect.5 On December 9,1977, after conducting a hearing on the matter, Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty granted the motion to convert Pacific Homes’ Chapter XI proceeding into a Chapter X reorganization proceeding. On that same day, this Court executed a second order of reference, referring to Judge Moriarty “any and all proceedings, trials, actions, hearings, orders or any other matters which might require this Court to act in this matter pursuant to Chapter X of the Bankruptcy Act.” 6
[855] Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty has been proceeding in this massive, complex piece of bankruptcy litigation. On December 9, 1977, after granting the petition to convert the Chapter XI proceeding into a Chapter X proceeding, Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty appointed Richard E. Matthews, who had been the receiver in the Chapter XI proceeding, as Trustee of the Chapter X Estate of Pacific Homes. Since the conversion, Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty has supervised these difficult bankruptcy proceedings in an admirable fashion.7
On April 27, 1978, the Trustee filed a “Complaint for Negligence, Breach of Fiduciary Duties, Mismanagement, Waste, and Declaratory Relief (Indemnity).” This complaint named as defendants the United Methodist Church (hereinafter UMC), the General Council of Finance and Administration of the United Methodist Church (hereinafter GCFA), the General Board of Global Ministries of the United Methodist Church (hereinafter General Board), the Health and Welfare Division of the Board of Global Ministries of the United Methodist Church (hereinafter Health and Welfare Division), the Pacific Southwest Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church (hereinafter PSWAC), and 87 individuals who had served as either officers, directors, or agents of Pacific Homes. The complaint contains three causes of action. The first alleges that the individual defendants are liable for negligence, breach of fiduciary duties, mismanagement, and waste.8 The second cause of action alleges that UMC, GCFA the General Board, and the Health & Welfare Divisioh (hereinafter the Church defendants) are also liable for negligence, breach of fiduciary duties, mismanagement, and waste.9 The third cause of action seeks declaratory relief.10 The complaint seeks, [856] on information and belief, damages in excess of fifty million dollars.11
On May 1, 1978, this Court executed another order of reference. This Order noted the filing of the Trustee’s complaint, stated that the intent of the December 9, 1977, Order was to refer to Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty “all adversary proceedings and complaints filed or to be filed in this Chapter X case,” and ordered, pursuant to Bankruptcy Rule 10-103, that all proceedings pertaining to this Trustee’s complaint also be referred to Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty.12
Thereafter, the defendants objected, by motion, to the jurisdiction of the Bankruptcy judge-referee to hear any proceedings involving this Complaint.13 On June 30, 1978, after full briefing by the parties and oral argument thereon, Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty, without deciding the question, invited the parties to raise the matter with this District Court by way of a motion to withdraw the orders of reference.
The defendants have now, in accordance with Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty’s invitation, filed a motion before us to withdraw our Order of Reference of May 1, 1978.14 The parties have fully briefed the important question of the scope of the authority of a District Court to refer, and the jurisdiction of a bankruptcy court to hear, plenary proceedings in a Chapter X proceeding. After considering the pleadings and memoranda filed by the parties, and after hearing oral argument on August 7, 1978, the Court hereby finds that it need not withdraw the May 1, 1978, order of reference and consequently denies the defendants’ motion to withdraw that order of reference. In addition, the Court certifies this important question for interlocutory appeal under 28 U.S.C. § 1292(b)..
[857] II. DISCUSSION
The sole question presented by these motions is whether the bankruptcy judge-referee in a Chapter X reorganization proceeding possesses jurisdiction over a plenary15 action brought by the Chapter X Trustee when the defendants16 in the plenary action file timely17 objections to the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee.
Initially, the Court notes the absence of any clear, binding judicial precedent on this narrow legal issue. Indeed, these motions appear to raise a novel question of law. The parties have, however, advanced various interesting arguments in support of their respective positions. The Court now turns to address these arguments.
A. Defendants’ Arguments
1. Defendants’ Jurisdiction Argument
The defendants contend that while a bankruptcy judge-referee in a Chapter X proceeding has jurisdiction to hear a plenary suit in the absence of a timely objection by the defendants, a bankruptcy judge-referee in a Chapter X proceeding lacks jurisdiction over that plenary action if the defendants do raise a timely objection to the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee. In support of this position, the defendants cite four cases, MacDonald v. Plymouth County Trust Co., 286 U.S. 263, 52 S.Ct. 505, 76 L.Ed. 1093 (1932); Weidhorn v. Levy, 253 U.S. 268, 40 S.Ct. 534, 64 L.Ed. 898 (1920); Goggin v. Consolidated Liquidating Corp., 190 F.2d 553 (9th Cir. 1951) (per curiam); Morrison v. Rocco-Ferrera & Co., 554 F.2d 290 (6th Cir. 1977), and various provisions of Collier’s treatise on bankruptcy law, 6 Collier on Bankruptcy, ¶ 3.13, at 506 (14th ed. 1978); 2A id., ¶ 38.09, at 1432; 2 id., ,¶ 23.15[7].18 Close, critical examination of these cited authorities is necessary for proper evaluation of this position.
In Weidhorn v. Levy, supra, the trustee in a straight bankruptcy action filed with the referee in bankruptcy a bill in equity against the brother of the bankrupt for a fraudulent ■ conveyance. The bankrupt’s brother objected to the referee’s jurisdiction and the issue came before the Supreme Court.19 After reviewing the decisions of the lower courts, the applicable statutes and General Orders, and previous lower court decisions on the issue, the Supreme Court concluded that:
under the language of the Bankruptcy Act and of the general orders in bank[858] ruptcy a referee, by virtue of a general reference under Order XII(l), has not jurisdiction over a plenary suit in equity brought by the trustee in bankruptcy against a third party to set aside a fraudulent transfer or conveyance under § 70e, and affecting property not in the custody or control of the court of bankruptcy.
253 U.S. at 274, 40 S.Ct. at 537.
In MacDonald v. Plymouth County Trust Co., supra, the trustee in bankruptcy had filed a petition with the referee to set aside a voidable preference under § 60(b) of the Bankruptcy Act and the respondent consented to have the issues proceed before the bankruptcy referee. In reversing the Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, which had ruled that the referee lacked jurisdiction notwithstanding the party’s consent,20 the Supreme Court found that, so long as all parties consented, the referee could try á plenary action. 286 U.S. at 266-67, 52 S.Ct. 505. In addition, the Court, citing Weidhorn v. Levy, stated that:
In cases where the defendant made timely objections to a determination by the referee, it has been said that the referee is without power to hear the issues involved in a plenary suit, and that such a suit, if brought before him, must be dismissed for1 want of jurisdiction.
Id. at 266, 52 S.Ct. at 506.
In Goggin v. Consolidated Liquidating Corp., supra, the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in a brief, two-paragraph per curiam decision, affirmed a District Court order holding that the parties who had objected to the referee’s jurisdiction in a timely fashion in a plenary action were entitled to an adjudication of their rights by a District Court, since it was a plenary suit. 190 F.2d at 554.
The case of Morrison v. Rocco-Ferrera & Co., supra, is the most closely analogous case with respect to the legal arguments presented in this case. In Morrison, the Trustee in a Chapter X reorganization proceeding filed a complaint in the District Court for recovery of an account receivable. The defendant in that action filed an answer and counterclaim and then, after the Chapter X proceeding terminated and'the corporation was declared bankrupt, challenged the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee, who had received the matter under an order of reference, to hear the case. The bankruptcy judge-referee ruled that he had jurisdiction and the District Court affirmed. 409 F.Supp. 1364 (E.D. Mich.1975). On appeal, the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit affirmed. In the pertinent section of its opinion, the Court of Appeals noted the distinction between “plenary” and “summary” jurisdiction,21 restated the rule that in straight bankruptcy cases a bankruptcy judge-referee cannot exercise summary jurisdiction over a controversy in which the defendant is entitled to a plenary proceeding if the defendant has filed a timely objection,22 and then suggested that this rule, developed in straight bankruptcy cases, applies with equal force in Chapter ,X reorganization proceedings as [859] well.23 See 554 F.2d 296-97. The Court of Appeals then stated that because the defendant failed to object to the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee in his answer he “will not now be heard to complain that the bankruptcy judge was without jurisdiction to entertain the controversy pursuant to the reference from the District Court sitting as a reorganization court.” Id. at 297.
Relying on these four decisions, and Collier’s attempted formulation of a rule of law from them,24 the defendants argue that the bankruptcy judge-referee loses jurisdiction over a plenary proceeding, even though it may have been properly referred to the bankruptcy judge-referee, once the defendants file timely objections to the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee to hear the plenary action.
The plaintiff-trustee, on the other hand, while apparently conceding the summary-plenary distinction in straight bankruptcy cases,25 raises several points in his attempt to demonstrate the inapplicability of that rule in a Chapter X setting. First, he accurately points out that the Supreme Court decided both Weidhorn and MacDonald before Congress enacted Chapter X of the Bankruptcy Act in 1938 and before the Supreme Court promulgated the Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure in 1975. Second, he points out that the Supreme Court interpreted different language in those decisions than the relevant statutory language applicable today. Third, he argues that the policies and background underlying Chapter X differ substantially from the nature of the policies and background underlying straight bankruptcy. Fourth, he argues that the Sixth Circuit’s comments in Morrison are dicta.
The plaintiff’s arguments here do substantially undermine the defendants’ position. While the fact that the Supreme Court did decide Weidhorn and MacDonald, the two cases most heavily relied upon by the defendants, before the enactment of Chapter X does not render them irrelevant but does demonstrate that they do not establish any rule as clear as the defendants would suggest.26 In addition, the Weidhorn Court relied heavily on the statutory language of General Order 12 involved in that case, which does differ from the language of statutes pertinent here.27 Moreover, the Supreme Court has indicated that Chapter [860] X proceedings are “distinctive and special proceedings.” Williams v. Austrian, 331 U.S. 642, 661, 67 S.Ct. 1443, 91 L.Ed. 1718 (1947). And while the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit did state in Morrison that the general rule in straight bankruptcy should also apply in Chapter X proceedings, the cases cited by that court for that proposition offer, at best, weak authority for such a statement.28 Finally, the statements found in Collier’s treatise, frequently quoted in the defendants’ moving papers, are virtually without any support in the context of a Chapter X proceeding.29 Therefore, the Court, while impressed with the defendants’ arguments, does not find them convincing enough to mandate a ruling in defendants’ favor.
[861]*8612. Defendants’ Constitutional and Policy Arguments
Defendants also argue that constitutional considerations preclude the Court from referring this action to the bankruptcy judge-referee. They argue essentially that permitting a bankruptcy judge-referee to hear this action would effectively make him an Article III court, rather than an Article I body. This argument fails for two reasons. First, an Article III District Court Judge will, in this type of situation, always retain authority over the case and is able to withdraw the order of reference at any time. Second, the defendants do not dispute the fact that they can consent to the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee over a plenary action; in that situation, they cannot argue that the bankruptcy judge-referee is constitutionally precluded from proceeding.
The defendants also raise a policy objection to the concept of a bankruptcy judge-referee hearing a plenary suit. They argue that the reference of this action to him will necessarily place him in a situation in which he has conflicting interests because he has the duty to oversee the administration of the estate, has himself appointed the trustee for the estate, and will hear contested matters involving the estate and the trustee as parties. This is utter nonsense. The trustee is just as impartial as the bankruptcy judge-referee,30 and indeed, the administration of the bankruptcy estate is in and of itself a completely impartial and judicially neutral undertaking.
B. Plaintiff’s Arguments
Plaintiff argues that the May 1, 1978 order of reference need not be withdrawn and, in support of that argument, relies primarily on the statutory language of Chapter X. Specifically, plaintiff relies on §§ 115 and 117 of the Bankruptcy Act, 11 U.S.C. §§ 515, 517, and rule 10-103 of the Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure.
1. Plaintiff’s Section 115 Argument Section 115 of the Bankruptcy Act, a provision found in Chapter X, provides as follows:
Upon the approval of a petition, the court shall have and may, in addition to the jurisdiction, powers, and duties herein-above and elsewhere in this chapter conferred and imposed upon it, exercise all the powers, not inconsistent with the provisions of this chapter, which a court of the United States would have if it had appointed a receiver in equity of the property of the debtor on the ground of insolvency or inability to meet its debts as they mature.
11 U.S.C. § 515.
Plaintiff argues that the term “the court,” as used in this section, includes both the District Court Judge and the Bankruptcy judge-referee under Bankruptcy Act § 1(9), 11 U.S.C. § 1(9),31 and that this [862] section, conferring on “the court” all the jurisdiction that could be exercised in a federal equity receivership, authorizes jurisdiction over plenary proceedings such as the instant case.
While § 115 may be said to expand the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee, see In re Cuyahoga Finance Co., 136 F.2d 18, 20 (6th Cir. 1943); Warner v. Brady, 115 F.2d 89, 94-95 (4th Cir. 1940),32 plaintiff has cited no eases in which a court used § 115 as the basis for the jurisdiction of a judge-referee in a case similar to this. In fact, the most closely analogous case appears to hold to the contrary.33 Thus, this Court is reluctant to assert that § 115 authorizes a bankruptcy judge-referee to hear this plenary action, which seeks fifty million dollars in damages, on the basis of his supposed federal equity receivership jurisdiction and will not so hold.
2. Plaintiffs Section 117 Argument
Section 117 of the Bankruptcy Act, also part of Chapter X, provides as follows:
The judge may, at any stage of a proceeding under this chapter, refer the proceeding to a referee in bankruptcy to hear and determine any and all matters .not reserved to the judge by the provisions of this chapter, or to a referee as special mastér, to hear and report generally or upon specified matters. Only under special circumstances shall references be made to a special master who is not a referee. The appointment of a receiver in a proceeding under this chapter shall be by the judge.
11 U.S.C. § 517. .Plaintiff argues that his Complaint is a “proceeding under this chapter,” that no other provision of Chapter X reserves this matter exclusively to a District Court Judge, and that therefore the Court could refer the matter to Bankruptcy Judge Moriarty.
In support of his argument that the term “proceeding” used in § 117 includes plenary actions, the plaintiff cites Williams v. Austrian, 331 U.S. 642, 67 S.Ct. 1443, 91 L.Ed. 1718 (1947). In Williams, the Supreme Court stated that the term “proceedings under this Chapter” used in Chapter X “must extend to plenary suits.” Id. at 659 n.42, 67 S.Ct. at 1451.34 In opposition to this part of the plaintiff’s argument, defendants make three arguments.
First, defendant PSWAC argues that the term “proceeding” used in § 117 is [863] the same term which the Supreme Court interpreted in the MacDonald and Weidhorn cases in denying the bankruptcy referee power to adjudicate plenary suits without consent of the defendants and further argues that the Advisory Committee’s Note to rule 10-103 of the Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure supports this view.35 With respect to the attempt to distinguish the Williams footnote by referring to MacDonald and Weidhorn, however, this Court finds that the specific language of the Williams footnote quoted above, being both later in time than the two earlier decisions and set specifically in the context of Chapter X, unlike those two earlier decisions, is controlling. With respect to the argument that the Advisory Committee Note to rule 10-10336 supports the defendants’ view, this Court initially notes that the Court may disregard these comments when they conflict with the Bankruptcy Act, Young Properties Corp. v. United Equity Corp., 534 F.2d 847, 854 (9th Cir. 1976), and finds that the Note does not in any way alter the language of § 117 as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Williams.
Second, defendant General Board and defendant Health & Welfare Division argue that the Supreme Court in Williams extended this interpretation of “proceeding” only to §§ 101 and 102 of the Act, 11 U.S.C. §§ 501, 502, and not to § 117.37 With respect to this argument, the Court notes that the Court in Williams extended the interpretation of the phrase “proceedings under this chapter ” to include plenary suits. 331 U.S. at 659 n.42, 67 S.Ct. 1443. (emphasis added), and thus did indeed define “proceedings” as used in § 117 because §§ 101, 102, and 117 are all part of Chapter X of the Bankruptcy Act, as amended.
Third, defendant PSWAC argues that rule 10-103(a) of the Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure supersedes § 117.38 Initially, the Court notes the absence of any controlling authority on this particular point.39 In deciding the point, however, the Court notes that the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit in the Morrison case did not mention rule 10-103 and confined itself to discussion of the applicability of § 117. See 554 F.2d at 295-98. This evidences to the Court the fact that § 117 has not been superseded by rule 10-103 and that § 117 is the key provision here. Thus, this objection by the defendants also lacks merit.
[864] It is clear that none of the defendants’ arguments rebut the plaintiff’s point that a plenary action must be considered a “proceeding” under Chapter X. In addition, in the Morrison decision, the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit relied upon the Williams footnote and did find that the action involved there was indeed a “proceeding” within the meaning of § 117. 554 F.2d at 297. Therefore, under the precedent of the Williams footnote quoted above and the decision in Morrison, the Court finds that the Trustee’s Complaint,' although a plenary action in nature, is a “proceeding” within the scope of § 117 of the Bankruptcy Act.
Plaintiff then argues that no provision of Chapter X exclusively reserves the decision on this matter to a District Court Judge. Plaintiff notes that none of the provisions of Chapter X expressly reserving matters for the District Court Judge40 apply to this case and the defendants do not point to any specific provision reserving this type of matter to the District Court Judge. Therefore, the Court must and does find that no provision of Chapter X exclusively reserves this matter to a District Court Judge.
This Court therefore agrees with the plaintiff that § 117 authorizes a referral of this Complaint. Moreover, this rule is sound because it enables the Trustee to gather all the potential assets of the debtor together before the bankruptcy judge-referee who is more intimately familiar with the affairs of the debtor than a District Court Judge and better able to resolve these affairs quickly. Accordingly, the Court finds that § 117 authorized it 'to refer this Complaint to the bankruptcy judge-referee because the complaint must be considered a “proceeding” within the meaning of § 117 and because no express provision of Chapter X prohibits such a reference.
3. Plaintiff’s Rule 10-103 Argument
Plaintiff also suggests that rule 10-103(a) of the Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure supports authorization of the order of reference to the bankruptcy judge-referee. Rule 10-103(a) contains two subsections, both of which must be considered.
Rule 10-103(a)(l) provides that, if a local rule of the district court so provides, the Clerk shall, with certain exceptions, forthwith refer to a bankruptcy judge-referee a “petition” filed under Chapter X.41 While this district has such a local rule,42 this rule is limited to cover “petitions” proposing a plan or reorganization under Chapter X and is inapplicable to the type of action filed here by the Trustee.43 Therefore, rule 10-103(a)(1) is inapplicable to this case.
[865] Rule 10-103(a)(2) provides that, in the absence of a local rule automatically referring Chapter X “cases” to a bankruptcy judge-referee, the clerk should assign the Chapter X “case” to a District Court Judge who may then refer the case to a bankruptcy judge-referee for any specified purpose.44 The language of this subsection does not limit references to “petitions,” but rather uses the term “case” which, as used in the Rules pf Bankruptcy Procedure, encompasses the Trustee’s Complaint.45 Therefore, this subsection of the rule, if not invalid as a modification of a substantive right,46 provides the Court with additional authority supporting the propriety of the May 1,1978 order of reference.
C. Conclusion
After reviewing all the authorities cited by the plaintiff-trustee and the defendants and other applicable principles of law, and after considering all the arguments advanced by the parties in support of their respective positions, the Court decides that the plaintiff’s arguments are convincing. Therefore, the Court finds that § 117, 11 U.S.C. § 517, authorizes the Court to refer to a bankruptcy judge-referee a plenary action filed by the trustee in a Chapter X proceeding, despite the objections of the defendants named in the complaint.
It follows that this District Court must and does deny defendants’ motion to withdraw the reference of May 1, 1978.
III. CERTIFICATION FOR INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL UNDER 28 U.S.C. § 1292(b)
Although the parties have not extensively briefed the issue of whether permissive interlocutory appeal would be appropriate in this case, the Trustee did mention it in his pleadings, Bankruptcy Judge-Referee Moriarty did discuss it with the parties, and this Court did raise and discuss the issue with the parties at the oral hearing on these motions. This section of this Decision and Order will examine the possibility of a permissive interlocutory appeal.
The statute authorizing permissive interlocutory appeals provides as follows:
When a district judge, in making in a civil action an order not otherwise appeal-able under this section, shall be of the opinion that such order involves a controlling question of law as to which there is substantial ground for difference of opinion and that an immediate appeal from the order may materially advance the ultimate termination of the litigation, he shall so state in writing in such order. The Court of Appeals may thereupon, in its discretion, permit an appeal to be taken from such order, if application is made to it within ten days after entry of the order: Provided, however, That application for an appeal hereunder shall not stay proceedings in the district court unless the district judge or the Court of Appeals or a judge thereof shall so order.
28 U.S.C. § 1292(b). Thus, under this section, in order to certify the immediate appeal of an order, this Court must find:
(1) the order involves a controlling question of law;
(2) substantial ground for difference of opinion exists on this question of law; and
(3) an immediate appeal might materially advance the ultimate termination of the litigation.
[866] See generally Arthur Young & Co. v. United States District Court, 549 F.2d 686, 697-98 (9th Cir. 1977); Green v. Occidental Petroleum Corp., 541 F.2d 1335, 1338 (9th Cir. 1976) (per curiam); Nickert v. Puget Sound Tug & Barge Co., 486 F.2d 1039 (9th Cir. 1973); Molybdenum Corp. v. Kasey, 279 F.2d 216 (9th Cir. 1960) (per curiam); 9 Moore’s Federal Practice, ¶ 110.22[2]; 16 C. Wright & A. Miller, Federal Practice and Procedure, § 3930 (1977).
In this case, analysis of these three factors leads the Court to conclude that the question presented by the instant motions— whether a bankruptcy judge-referee acting under an order of reference in a Chapter X proceeding has jurisdiction over a plenary action when the defendants have filed timely objections to the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy judge-referee — should be certified to the Court of Appeals for immediate interlocutory appeal.
1. Order Involves a Controlling Question of Law
This requirement is met in this case for the following reasons: the Court is issuing an order; this order solely involves a question of law and does not involve the resolution of disputed facts; the issue, being a question of law, is ripe for appellate review; and the question raised is controlling in that its resolution will have a substantial impact on the entire course of the litigation.
2. Substantial Ground for Difference of Opinion Exists
This requirement is easily met in this case because the motions raise a novel question of law and both parties have raised excellent, forceful arguments in support of their respective positions. The Court does not doubt the wisdom of its own judgment on this motion, but recognizes that the importance of the issue necessitates a more final ruling.
3. Appeal Might Materially Advance the Ultimate Termination of the Litigation
Since the Court has ruled that it will not withdraw the May 1, 1978 order of reference, interlocutory appeal under this section might certainly advance the ultimate termination of the litigation. If the Court of Appeals were to reverse this ruling after the bankruptcy judge-referee has tried this case, then the parties would be forced to retry the case, estimated to take six months to a year for preparation and trial time, before a District Court Judge. If the Court of Appeals were to accept and rule on this appeal immediately, however, then the parties and the bankruptcy judge-referee would not have to face the possibility of a lengthy, futile effort.
Thus, because all the necessary factors found in § 1292(b) have been found to exist, the Court finds that the issue raised by these motions is appropriate for immediate interlocutory appeal under § 1292(b) and so orders. The defendants should move the Court of Appeals to hear the appeal within the ten day period specified in the statute47 and the Court of Appeals will hopefully, in its discretion, accept the appeal.
The Court does, under § 1292(b), stay any trial or hearing on the merits pending the decision by the Court of Appeals on the request for interlocutory appeal. The Court does not, however, stay discovery in this case, because it wishes the litigation to proceed as far as possible, so long as no party’s rights are irreparably damaged.
ORDER
Pursuant to the above decision, findings and conclusions, it is hereby ordered as follows:
1. That the defendants’ motions to withdraw the May 1, 1978 Order of Reference are denied;
2. That the order denying these motions be certified for immediate interlocutory appeal;
[867]*8673. That the Clerk of Court forthwith file this Decision and Order, and serve copies thereof upon all parties.herein through their respective counsel of record, as well as upon Bankruptcy Judge-Referee, the Honorable James E. Moriarty.
United Methodist Church-related retirement homes in other states are also reportedly in financial trouble. Los Angeles Times, June 10, 1978, pt. II, at 10, col. 2.
the referee in bankruptcy is without power to hear the issues involved in a plenary suit where timely objection is made to such determination; therefore, he has no jurisdiction, without consent, to determine adverse claims to property claimed to belong to the bankrupt’s estate which property, at the time of the institution of the proceeding in bankruptcy, was in the possession of a third person claiming more than a colorable interest therein.
2A Collier on Bankruptcy, ¶| 38.09, at 1432-33 (14th ed. 1978) (emphasis is original). In another location in the treatise, Collier extends this rule into the context of a Chapter X reorganization proceeding:
as in ordinary bankruptcy, the referee is without power to hear the issues involved in a plenary suit where timely objection is made.
6 id., 113.13, at 506 (emphasis is original).
The order referring a case to a referee shall name a day upon which the bankrupt shall attend before the referee; and from that day the bankrupt shall be subject to the orders of the court in all matters relating to his bank[860] ruptcy, and may receive from the referee a protection against arrest, to continue until the final adjudication on his application for a discharge, unless suspended or vacated by order of the court. A copy of the order shall forthwith be sent by mail to the referee, or be delivered to him personally by the clerk or other officer of the court. And thereafter all the proceedings, except such as are required by the act or by these general orders to be had before the judge, shall be had before the referee.
See 172 U.S. 653, 657 (1898).
In this case, the relevant, or possibly relevant, language of the statute and rules is found in § 117 of the Bankruptcy Act, 11 U.S.C. § 517 (quoted in section II B 2 of this opinion) and rule 10-103(a) of the Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure (quoted in notes 41, 44 infra). Comparison of the General Order with the current statute and rule reflects a marked difference in the language of the applicable provisions. The only similarity between the General Order and rule 10-103 is that the second sentence of rule 10-103(a) (all proceedings, following a reference, shall be had before the referee, with certain specified exceptions) is based on the General Order.
See Advisory Committee Note to Rule 10-103 of the Rules on Bankruptcy Procedure, reprinted in 13A Collier on Bankruptcy, ¶ 10-103.01 (14th ed. 1978).
Similarly, in the Mt. Forest Fur Farms case, 122 F.2d 232 (6th Cir. 1941), cert. denied, 314 U.S. 701, 62 S.Ct. 480, 86 L.Ed. 561 (1942), rehearing denied, 315 U.S. 826, 62 S.Ct. 622, 86 L.Ed. 1222 (1942), the Court of Appeals dealt with the problems of the summary jurisdiction of a bankruptcy court and did not detail the relationship between Chapter X and the other provisions of the bankruptcy laws.
The Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit did discuss the relationship between Chapter X and straight bankruptcy to some extent in the D.I.A. Sales Corporation case, 339 F.2d 175 (6th Cir. 1964). In that case, the Court held that a referee in a Chapter X proceeding could, under a broad order of reference similar to the one executed in this case, grant a petition for reclamation of certain merchandise and approve ■ an indemnity agreement. The Court based its finding on the statutes specifying that provisions of straight bankruptcy apply in Chapter X unless in conflict with Chapter X, 11 U.S.C. § 502, and provisions of straight bankruptcy authorizing the exercise of such powers by the bankruptcy referee. See 339 F.2d at 179. Thus, at least implicitly, the Court did suggest in this .case that Chapter X should be treated in much the same way as straight bankruptcy. Nevertheless, two points should be made. First, the defendant in this case limited his objections to the portion of § 117 reversing certain matters to the district court judge. In using this case to suggest that Chapter X proceedings should be treated just as straight bankruptcy, the Court in Morrison may have stretched what really was a holding based on statutory language alone in D.I.A. Second, the Court in D.I.A. did permit the referee to assert his jurisdiction over the problems before him. If the Court had been faced with the type of objection as currently faces this Court, perhaps that Court would have permitted the referee to adjudicate that matter as well.
The powers of a referee are defined in § 38 of the Act as follows:
Referees are hereby invested, subject always to a review by the judge, with jurisdiction to (1) consider all petitions referred to them and make the adjudications or dismiss the petitions; (2) exercise the powers vested in courts of bankruptcy for the administering of oaths to and the examination of persons as witnesses and for requiring the production of documents in proceedings before them, except the power of commitment; (3) exercise the powers of the judge for the taking possession and releasing of the property of the bankrupt in the event of the issuance by the clerk of a certificate showing the absence of a judge from the judicial district, or the division of the district, or showing his sickness or inability to act; (4) grant, deny, or revoke [862] discharges, determine the dischargeability of debts, and render judgments thereon; (5) confirm or refuse to confirm arrangements or wage-earner plans, or set aside the confirmation of arrangements or wage-earner plans and reinstate the proceedings or cases; (6) perform such of the duties as are by this title conferred on courts of bankruptcy, including those incidental to ancillary jurisdiction, and as shall be prescribed by rules or orders of the courts of bankruptcy of their respective districts, except as herein otherwise provided; and (7) during the examination of the bankrupt, or during other proceedings, authorize the employment of stenographers for reporting and transcribing proceedings at such reasonable expense to the estate as the court may fix.
11 U.S.C. § 66.
The Supreme Court shall have the power to prescribe by general rules, the forms of process, writs, pleadings, and motions, and the practice and procedure under the Bankruptcy Act.
Such rules shall not abridge, enlarge, or modify any substantive right.
All laws in conflict with such rules shall be of no further force or effect after such rules have taken effect.
28 U.S.C. § 2075. Courts which have interpreted this provision must begin with a strong presumption that these rules are properly enacted and do not enlarge, abridge, or modify any substantive right. In re Mobile Steel Co., 563 F.2d 692 (5th Cir. 1977); In re Wall, 403 F.Supp. 357 (E.D.Ark.1975).
The Court also notes that Collier’s treatise suggests that the rule supplants the statute “in its entirety,” at least with respect to the district court’s ability to appoint special masters under Chapter X. See 6 Collier on Bankruptcy, 11 3.35[2] (14th Ed. 1978).