Botsford, J.
The defendants, DRT, PPT and DHT, have moved for a protective order to preclude the plaintiffs’ taking the deposition of Renee Brant, M.D., and further to preclude Dr. Brant from being required to produce treatment and related records which have been subpoenaed by the plaintiffs in connection with the deposition. For the reasons discussed below, the motion is allowed at this time.
Background
The plaintiffs here, a child and her parents, allege in their complaint that the defendant DHT sexually assaulted the child JME on a number of occasions during the period of time between September 1989 and January 1990 when DHT babysat for JME. DHT was fourteen at the time of the alleged incidents. The complaint seeks damages from DHT on account of the alleged assaults, and from his parents on the principal basis of allegedly negligent supervision of their son.
It is undisputed that DHT was treated by psychotherapists before and after the alleged incidents, and the parties have spent much time in this long-pending case disputing the plaintiffs’ ability to discover the psychotherapists’ records and depose the therapists themselves. In fact, there is an earlier chapter in the effort to obtain discovery from Dr. Renee Brant, the event giving rise to the present motion. DHT was treated by Dr. Brant soon after the alleged incidents, and in 1994 the plaintiffs sought to discover her treatment records. A judge of this court allowed the plaintiffs’ motion in part and denied it in part. In particular, she ruled that the plaintiffs might obtain access to those portions, if any, of Dr. Brant’s therapy records which contain “ ‘conclusions based on objective indicia’ of emotional disturbance,”1 a term which would include “disturbances of sleep or appetite, anergia, impaired concentration of memory, hopelessness, anxiety or panic, dissociative states, hallucinations, labile or flattened affect or somatic symptoms such as headaches.”2 Ruling on Plaintiffs’ Motion to Compel Discovery, May 10, 1994 (Gershengorn, J.). In response to an inquiry by the parties, Judge Gershengorn later ruled that in the first instance, Dr. Brant should review her records to determine whether any of them contained information concerning “objective indicia" of emotional disturbance. It appears that Dr. Brant did so, and has indicated that her records contain no such information. (Motion for Protective Order, ex. E.)
In March 1995, the plaintiffs began taking the deposition of Dr. James Hreshko, a therapist who [184]*184(reated DHT for a short period of time in the fall of 1989. The deposition was suspended while a motion was brought on behalf of Dr. Hreshko to determine whether and the extent to which Dr. Hreshko’s records were privileged. Another judge of this court (White, J.) ordered Lhe records to be produced for review in camera. Thereafter, in the fall of 1995, she ruled that no portion of the records was to be released to the plaintiffs. I infer that the deposition of Dr. Hreshko never resumed.
The plaintiffs reinstituted their efforts to obtain discovery from Dr. Brant in approximately June 1996. In response to the defendants’ motion for a protective order currently at issue, the plaintiffs ask first that I review Dr. Brant’s treatment and associated records (e.g., billing records) to determine what portions, if any, are privileged, and then determine whether the plaintiffs still should be entitled to view the records because they have made a showing of “legitimate need.” The plaintiffs argue (hat it is at best inappropriate for the therapist herself (o review the records for the purpose of determining whether they contain material unprotected by any privilege. They further argue that perhaps their primary goal in seeking this review is “to determine if there is any relevant information that could fairly be described as constituting prior parental knowledge or notice of DHT’s unsuitability for child care responsibilities.”3
Discussion
The plaintiffs do not dispute that the treatment records of Dr. Brant, a licensed psychiatrist, implicate the patient-psychotherapist privilege in G.L.c. 233, §20B (§ 20B) .4 Insofar as these records contain “communications”5 between Dr. Brant and DHT himself, again, there is no dispute by the plaintiffs that the privilege applies.6 In my view, the plaintiffs’ request to have me review Dr. Brant’s records raises two separate questions: (1) to the extent Dr. Brant’s records contain information that does not qualify as communications, is the information relevant to the issues in this case; and (2) are communications between Dr. Brant and lhe parents of DHT (i.e., DRT and PPT) protected by lhe §20B privilege. I address each separately.
1.Information other than communications.
As Judge Gershengorn ruled, psychiatric records may well contain information that does not fit within the patient-psychotherapist privilege in §20B because it does not constitute “communications.” I agree with Lhe plaintiffs that insofar as Dr. Brant’s records contain or may contain non-privileged material which may be relevant to the case, it might be appropriate for a judge to review the records rather than leaving the determination wholly to the doctor. I need not resolve lhe question here, however, because in the circumstances I conclude that any non-privileged material in Lhe records would not be relevant.
Dr. Brant did not see DHT until after the alleged assaults had stopped. Medication records and Dr. Brant’s observations about issues such as somatic symptoms, affect, impaired concentration or memory7 at the time of treatment, would not speak directly to DHT’s condition at an earlier time.8 Moreover, these types of observations or similar information would not appear relevant to the issue of whether DHT’s parents knew or should have known some months earlier that he would not be a suitable babysitter.9
2.Communications to and from DHT’s Parents
The plaintiffs assert that insofar as Dr. Brant’s records contain information about communications to or from DHT’s parents, that information cannot be privileged because Dr. Brant’s patient was DHT only. I cannot agree.
At the time DHT saw Dr. Brant, he was fourteen years old. It is clear from the materials submitted in connection with the motion for a protective order, and earlier motions concerning discovery, thatDHTs parents, PPT and DRT, arranged for him to see Dr. Brant, and I infer from Dr. Brant’s letter of September 13, 1994 (exhibit E to motion for protective order) that in some way they were involved in her treatment or diagnosis of DHT.
Section 20B embraces a flexible view of who qualifies as a “patient” and what a “communication” entails for purposes of the privilege.10 Where a minor child is involved, it seems inevitable that the psychotherapist is going to need to obtain information from the parentis) as part of her diagnosis and treatment. And while perhaps not inevitable, it is at least reasonable to assume that the therapist in turn will communicate information about the child’s diagnosis, treatment, or both, to the parents during the course of the treatment.
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Botsford, J.
The defendants, DRT, PPT and DHT, have moved for a protective order to preclude the plaintiffs’ taking the deposition of Renee Brant, M.D., and further to preclude Dr. Brant from being required to produce treatment and related records which have been subpoenaed by the plaintiffs in connection with the deposition. For the reasons discussed below, the motion is allowed at this time.
Background
The plaintiffs here, a child and her parents, allege in their complaint that the defendant DHT sexually assaulted the child JME on a number of occasions during the period of time between September 1989 and January 1990 when DHT babysat for JME. DHT was fourteen at the time of the alleged incidents. The complaint seeks damages from DHT on account of the alleged assaults, and from his parents on the principal basis of allegedly negligent supervision of their son.
It is undisputed that DHT was treated by psychotherapists before and after the alleged incidents, and the parties have spent much time in this long-pending case disputing the plaintiffs’ ability to discover the psychotherapists’ records and depose the therapists themselves. In fact, there is an earlier chapter in the effort to obtain discovery from Dr. Renee Brant, the event giving rise to the present motion. DHT was treated by Dr. Brant soon after the alleged incidents, and in 1994 the plaintiffs sought to discover her treatment records. A judge of this court allowed the plaintiffs’ motion in part and denied it in part. In particular, she ruled that the plaintiffs might obtain access to those portions, if any, of Dr. Brant’s therapy records which contain “ ‘conclusions based on objective indicia’ of emotional disturbance,”1 a term which would include “disturbances of sleep or appetite, anergia, impaired concentration of memory, hopelessness, anxiety or panic, dissociative states, hallucinations, labile or flattened affect or somatic symptoms such as headaches.”2 Ruling on Plaintiffs’ Motion to Compel Discovery, May 10, 1994 (Gershengorn, J.). In response to an inquiry by the parties, Judge Gershengorn later ruled that in the first instance, Dr. Brant should review her records to determine whether any of them contained information concerning “objective indicia" of emotional disturbance. It appears that Dr. Brant did so, and has indicated that her records contain no such information. (Motion for Protective Order, ex. E.)
In March 1995, the plaintiffs began taking the deposition of Dr. James Hreshko, a therapist who [184]*184(reated DHT for a short period of time in the fall of 1989. The deposition was suspended while a motion was brought on behalf of Dr. Hreshko to determine whether and the extent to which Dr. Hreshko’s records were privileged. Another judge of this court (White, J.) ordered Lhe records to be produced for review in camera. Thereafter, in the fall of 1995, she ruled that no portion of the records was to be released to the plaintiffs. I infer that the deposition of Dr. Hreshko never resumed.
The plaintiffs reinstituted their efforts to obtain discovery from Dr. Brant in approximately June 1996. In response to the defendants’ motion for a protective order currently at issue, the plaintiffs ask first that I review Dr. Brant’s treatment and associated records (e.g., billing records) to determine what portions, if any, are privileged, and then determine whether the plaintiffs still should be entitled to view the records because they have made a showing of “legitimate need.” The plaintiffs argue (hat it is at best inappropriate for the therapist herself (o review the records for the purpose of determining whether they contain material unprotected by any privilege. They further argue that perhaps their primary goal in seeking this review is “to determine if there is any relevant information that could fairly be described as constituting prior parental knowledge or notice of DHT’s unsuitability for child care responsibilities.”3
Discussion
The plaintiffs do not dispute that the treatment records of Dr. Brant, a licensed psychiatrist, implicate the patient-psychotherapist privilege in G.L.c. 233, §20B (§ 20B) .4 Insofar as these records contain “communications”5 between Dr. Brant and DHT himself, again, there is no dispute by the plaintiffs that the privilege applies.6 In my view, the plaintiffs’ request to have me review Dr. Brant’s records raises two separate questions: (1) to the extent Dr. Brant’s records contain information that does not qualify as communications, is the information relevant to the issues in this case; and (2) are communications between Dr. Brant and lhe parents of DHT (i.e., DRT and PPT) protected by lhe §20B privilege. I address each separately.
1.Information other than communications.
As Judge Gershengorn ruled, psychiatric records may well contain information that does not fit within the patient-psychotherapist privilege in §20B because it does not constitute “communications.” I agree with Lhe plaintiffs that insofar as Dr. Brant’s records contain or may contain non-privileged material which may be relevant to the case, it might be appropriate for a judge to review the records rather than leaving the determination wholly to the doctor. I need not resolve lhe question here, however, because in the circumstances I conclude that any non-privileged material in Lhe records would not be relevant.
Dr. Brant did not see DHT until after the alleged assaults had stopped. Medication records and Dr. Brant’s observations about issues such as somatic symptoms, affect, impaired concentration or memory7 at the time of treatment, would not speak directly to DHT’s condition at an earlier time.8 Moreover, these types of observations or similar information would not appear relevant to the issue of whether DHT’s parents knew or should have known some months earlier that he would not be a suitable babysitter.9
2.Communications to and from DHT’s Parents
The plaintiffs assert that insofar as Dr. Brant’s records contain information about communications to or from DHT’s parents, that information cannot be privileged because Dr. Brant’s patient was DHT only. I cannot agree.
At the time DHT saw Dr. Brant, he was fourteen years old. It is clear from the materials submitted in connection with the motion for a protective order, and earlier motions concerning discovery, thatDHTs parents, PPT and DRT, arranged for him to see Dr. Brant, and I infer from Dr. Brant’s letter of September 13, 1994 (exhibit E to motion for protective order) that in some way they were involved in her treatment or diagnosis of DHT.
Section 20B embraces a flexible view of who qualifies as a “patient” and what a “communication” entails for purposes of the privilege.10 Where a minor child is involved, it seems inevitable that the psychotherapist is going to need to obtain information from the parentis) as part of her diagnosis and treatment. And while perhaps not inevitable, it is at least reasonable to assume that the therapist in turn will communicate information about the child’s diagnosis, treatment, or both, to the parents during the course of the treatment. In my view, the definitions of “patient” and “communication” in §20B are sufficiently generous to include within the protection of the privilege the communications between the parents of a minor child and the child’s psychotherapist which relate to the diagnosis and treatment of the child. See Rule 503 of the Proposed Rules of Massachusetts Evidence (1980).11 See also Commonwealth v. Clemons, 12 Mass.App.Ct. 580, 584 n. 2 (1981). Cf. Robinson v. Commonwealth, 399 Mass. 131, 133-135 (1987) (mother of critically ill child in hospital was entitled to assert protection of §20B privilege for report of her conversation with hospital staff psychiatrist, initiated by psychiatrist, concerning mother’s feelings about child’s critical health situation). Accordingly, I conclude that any portion of Dr. Brant’s records relating to communications between her arid DHT’s parents are privileged, and not discoverable by the plaintiffs.
3.Conclusion
The discussion above concerns the plaintiffs’ access to Dr. Brant’s treatment records. In light of my determination that the records are not discoverable, any deposition of Dr. Brant would appear fruitless, since the facts to which she might testify have not been shown to be either relevant or non-privileged. However, if the plaintiffs believe that there remain substantive areas of inquiry they would pursue with Dr. Brant that do not involve either privileged or irrelevant ma[185]*185terial, they make seek reconsideration of this order insofar as the deposition is concerned.
ORDER
For the foregoing reasons, the defendants’ motion for a protective order is allowed, without prejudice.