In re Ha.S.

2025 Ohio 5735
CourtOhio Court of Appeals
DecidedDecember 23, 2025
DocketH-25-001, H-25-002
StatusPublished

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Opinion

[Cite as In re Ha.S., 2025-Ohio-5735.]

IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO SIXTH APPELLATE DISTRICT HURON COUNTY

In re Ha.S., Hy.S. Court of Appeals No. H-25-001 H-25-002

Trial Court No. DNA202400072 DNA202400073

DECISION AND JUDGMENT

Decided: December 23, 2025

***** Alex W. Smith, Esq., for appellant.

Richard H. Palau, Esq., for appellee.

*****

ZMUDA, J.

{¶ 1} Appellant, the father of the minor children Ha.S. and Hy.S. (“Father”),

appeals from the January 7, 2025 judgment of the Huron County Court of Common

Pleas, Juvenile Division adjudicating Ha.S. and Hy.S., dependent. Father’s single

assignment of error challenges the trial court’s dependency adjudication. For the reasons

that follow, the trial court’s judgment is affirmed. I. Facts and Procedural History

{¶ 2} On October 25, 2024, appellee, Huron County Department of Job and

Family Services, filed a complaint alleging that Ha.S. and Hy.S. were dependent children.

The complaint alleged that Father had made several statements about his desire to

sexually assault children of various ages, including newborn infants and a 5-year-old girl.

The complaint further alleged that Father communicated these statements to a 15-year-

old child through an online dating site and that Father arranged a meeting with the 15-

year-old girl, telling her that he intended to engage in sexual activity with her. Finally,

according to the complaint, although Father and the mother of Ha.S. and Hy.S.

(“Mother”) initially agreed to a safety plan, Father refused to undergo certain testing

requested by appellee, Mother expressed her desire to remain married to Father, and both

Mother and Father wanted Father to have unsupervised access to the children.

{¶ 3} An emergency shelter care hearing was held on October 25, 2024.

Following the hearing, the children were placed in the temporary custody of Mother and

the court ordered that Father vacate the family home. Father was granted supervised

visitation with the children.

{¶ 4} An adjudicatory hearing was held on January 6, 2025. At the hearing,

Father’s attorney initially stated that he planned to admit to the allegations in the

complaint. However, the trial court did not engage in any colloquy with Father. Instead,

the trial court asked appellee to proceed with its evidence.

2. {¶ 5} Appellee called Detective Scott Hamernik with the Norwalk Police

Department to testify. Detective Hamernik testified that in July 2024, an individual

named Brian Knepp who was involved with a Facebook group called 814 Pred Hunter

contacted him claiming that he had information on Father. According to Knepp,

individuals working with 814 Pred Hunter who were pretending to be juvenile females

had engaged in conversations with Father in which Father expressed sexual interest in

minors. Still posing as juvenile females, those individuals set up a meeting with Father in

Stark County. After Father failed to appear for the meeting, individuals appeared at a

park in Norwalk near the family’s home where they confronted Father.

{¶ 6} Detective Hamernik explained that because the individuals working with

814 Pred Hunters were neither minors nor law enforcement, Father’s conversations with

them were not illegal. However, Detective Hamernik met with Father and Mother to

investigate whether other criminal activity may have occurred.

{¶ 7} During the meeting, Father and Mother admitted that Father had made

online “graphic sexual statements … about what he wanted to do with … juvenile

females … as young as a several hours old all the way up to 80-year-old females.”

Father communicated these statements in 2024 to three different individuals, all of whom

Father had “believed to be juveniles based on the messages from them and photos.”

Detective Hamernik testified that he was careful to clarify with Father that Father

believed he was speaking with minors and not other adults engaging in role play, and

3. Father confirmed that although his statements were “just online fantasies,” he believed he

was communicating with minors.

{¶ 8} Both Father and Mother consented to a search of the electronic devices in

their home. Although police found “graphic images” in their search, none of the images

were “illegal.” Detective Hamernik testified that police did find evidence that Father

may have been having conversations with a minor living in western Ohio. Although

Detective Hamernik testified that an investigation was ongoing into these conversations,

Hamernik confirmed that no charges had been filed against Father.

{¶ 9} Next, Susan Heydinger, a social worker who works for appellee, testified

regarding appellee’s investigation. Heydinger testified that appellee became involved for

two reasons: concern about Father’s sexually explicit statements involving minors as well

as concern for the risk of harm to Ha.S. and Hy.S. from others as a result of Father’s

actions. Heydinger explained that 814 Pred Hunters had posted a video of Father to

Facebook along with the family’s address, there were concerns that people were going to

the family’s home to confront Father, and the children’s mother even contacted the police

regarding one such incident. In addition, after news of Father’s statements spread

through the community, 8-year-old Hy.S. was bullied at school and during sporting

events, and he was “jumped” by other kids at a park.

{¶ 10} Heydinger testified that Father and Mother initially agreed to a voluntary

case plan. Father agreed to move out of the family home and to limit his visitation with

the children to supervised visits, and Father participated in counseling with a provider

4. with whom he had already established care prior to the onset of the case. However,

Father refused to undergo the Abel Assessment for Sexual Interest, which appellee

recommended so that Father could get specific treatment for the concerns raised by his

statements regarding the sexual assault of minors. Father and Mother also told appellee

they no longer agreed to Father living outside the family home nor did they agree that

Father needed supervision when he was with the children.

{¶ 11} Heydinger confirmed that there was no evidence that Father had ever

harmed his children physically. However, Heydinger maintained that Father’s statements

of his desire to sexually assault newborn babies and 5-year-old children were very

concerning in light of the ages of Father’s children, who were 4 and 8 years old at the

time. Heydinger asserted Father’s statements indicated a possibility that Father would

harm his children. Heydinger also pointed out that Hy.S. had been bullied and physically

assaulted due to Father’s actions.

{¶ 12} No further witnesses testified, and appellee did not present any additional

evidence. Father did not present any evidence of his own. Instead, he argued that

appellee had failed to prove dependency. Father maintained that because his statements

were constitutionally protected, there was no evidence that he had performed any of the

acts in those statements, and there was no evidence that he had physically harmed his

children, appellee had failed to establish that he was a danger to his children.

{¶ 13} At the hearing, the trial court found by clear and convincing evidence that

both children were dependent. The trial court pointed to “three statements that [F]ather

5.

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