In Re Guardianship of Clive Ro

2009 WI App 176, 777 N.W.2d 664, 322 Wis. 2d 615, 2009 Wisc. App. LEXIS 856
CourtCourt of Appeals of Wisconsin
DecidedNovember 4, 2009
Docket2008AP2456-AC
StatusPublished
Cited by6 cases

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In Re Guardianship of Clive Ro, 2009 WI App 176, 777 N.W.2d 664, 322 Wis. 2d 615, 2009 Wisc. App. LEXIS 856 (Wis. Ct. App. 2009).

Opinion

ANDERSON, J.

¶ 1. This is an appeal from the denial of a permanent guardianship to Cynthia H., the grandmother of Clive R.O. Cynthia contends that the trial court applied "an incomplete and incorrect legal standard under [Wis. Stat.] chapter 54. . . and/or Barstad v. Frazieri[, 118 Wis. 2d 549, 348 N.W.2d 479 (1984)]." Cynthia further contends that the trial court "misinterpreted current guardianship law in concluding that if the guardianship 'stays in place,' Kristine O. and Joshua O. will never really have a chance to be parents." We cannot agree with Cynthia's contentions. The record demonstrates that the trial court not only applied the correct legal standard and interpretation of the law, it *618 also commendably attempted to handle this case without further dividing the opposing parties, who are family. We affirm.

¶ 2. Clive was born on September 28, 2007, in Oregon to Kristine and Joshua. Kristine is the daughter of Cynthia, the petitioner-appellant. Clive was the result of a planned pregnancy. Some time during the pregnancy, Kristine developed symptoms of postpartum depression, which continued after Clive's birth. Kristine's postpartum depression was diagnosed both by her obstetrician and later by Dr. Wendy Davis, an expert on postpartum depression.

¶ 3. Joshua testified that despite Kristine's postpartum depression, she cared for Clive daily and was able to do "a lot." Kristine bathed Clive, changed diapers, fed him, changed clothing and changed linens. Joshua explained that, although Kristine's postpartum depression was not getting in the way of caring for their baby, it was getting in the way of Kristine feeling good about herself. In short, Joshua said his wife "was a wreck" during her postpartum depression.

¶ 4. Joshua testified that Kristine's obstetrician advised him and Kristine to have a family member help out so that Kristine could have some respite. Joshua stated that his understanding of this advice "didn't mean permanent time off." Rather, he explained that "[i]t meant if [we] had a family member in town [we could] have [someone in our family] come over for a couple hours a day so Kristine c[ould] have a break [and that person could] take care of Clive, take care of house duties ... just so Kristine could sleep . .. [and] rest."

¶ 5. Subsequently, Joshua explained that because he and Kristine did not have relatives in town who could help and because they could not afford a nanny or babysitter, they asked Kristine's mother, Cynthia, to *619 come to Oregon to help care for Clive. 1 Cynthia told Joshua that she was unable to stay in Oregon due to her job. However, she did offer to take Clive back to her home in Wisconsin to care for him. Kristine and Joshua agreed to this arrangement and, in early November 2007, Cynthia took Clive to Wisconsin. At this time, there was no transfer of custody or guardianship proceeding; this was simply an agreement among family members.

¶ 6. Thereafter, because Kristine was not improving, she and Joshua contacted Dr. Davis, an expert on postpartum depression, and began counseling sessions on November 27, 2007. Dr. Davis testified that her diagnosis that Kristine was suffering from "major depression, ... with postpartum onset" was based on a thorough assessment in which she determined that Kristine "was experiencing a lot of despair." Kristine, at that time, would go days without speaking and did not eat or sleep. Dr. Davis stated that, despite Kristine's postpartum depression, she did not hear of or observe "any threat of harm to the baby." Dr. Davis further testified that it was her assessment that Clive "was taken care of well" in the weeks that Kristine and Joshua cared for him after his birth. Dr. Davis characterized Kristine and Joshua's decision to allow Clive to go live with his grandmother Cynthia as "very healthy" and "courageous." Specifically, she testified:

I thought [that allowing their baby to go live with his grandmother] was courageous .... I thought it was a very healthy decision actually, and I was glad that they had a grandmother to take care of the baby because the kinds of symptoms and feelings and physical, psycho *620 logical, emotional that Kristine was having.. . were so overwhelming to her and she needed time to recover .. . and it's standard practice it's not unusual to have a grandmother or aunty or somebody either move in or — in some cases and in other cases I've helped have the baby stay with relatives for a little while.

Dr. Davis's professional opinion was that having the child removed from Kristine and Joshua was beneficial to Kristine in terms of her recovery and her therapy. She noted that it is very hard for a couple to problem solve and make clear decisions while in the middle of dealing with postpartum depression. She commended Kristine and Joshua for "working together and. . . communicat[ing] so well they were able to problem solve with [Cynthia] to say here's something we can do." She said she was "completely supportive" of their decision to allow Clive to be cared for by Cynthia "because it was well thought out" and voluntary.

¶ 7. Dr. Davis noted that it was not unusual that Kristine talked about giving Clive up for adoption because this "happens quite a lot with postpartum women that they're thinking that, talking about it in therapy." Dr. Davis stated that Kristine also said outside of therapy: "I don't think I can do this, I can't do this." Dr. Davis explained the clinical assessment and advice that she gave to Joshua and Kristine at the time:

[M]y strongest impression clinically, therapeutically, was that I said to Josh No. 1 — [Kristine] needs to be heard. You have to stop telling her you want the baby back because she's not gonna be able to — there's no one to trust. She has nobody to trust. So you're gonna have to stop telling her, "This is wrong, I want [our baby] back," and start listening to her and we will go from there because my clinical, my therapeutic instinct was that if [Kristine] could get that safety around her emotionally, if she could just say to someone, "I don't *621 know how and I don't know if I can," that she might be able to recover and bring [their baby] home.

¶ 8. Kristine testified at trial. She related that had she known her stepfather, Steven, was living with Cynthia, she "would have never asked [Cynthia] to watch Clive while [she] recovered." Kristine and Steven had always had a tumultuous relationship. At the time she asked her mother to care for Clive, she believed that her mother was separated from Steven because that is what her mother led her to believe. 2 Kristine considered it a betrayal that her mother allowed Clive to be around Steven.

¶ 9. Cynthia testified that the "whole time I had Clive I was waiting for [Joshua and Kristine] to call me. They never called me.... They never did." In direct contrast, Joshua testified that he spoke with Cynthia "very frequently" during the time she was caring for Clive in Wisconsin. He said he heard from Cynthia during that time via text messages and e-mails, as well as having phone contact.

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