PER CURIAM
This attorney discipline case involves three attorneys. It arises out of their representation of the estate of Florin J. Becker, deceased. The Oregon State Bar filed complaints against Clarence A. Potts (Potts), M. Lyle Trammell (Trammell), and Terry G. Hannon (Hannon), charging excessive fees (DR 2-106(A) and (B)) and fee splitting (DR 2-107(A)).
The Trial Board and the Disciplinary Review Board found that all three had violated DR 2-106(A), and that Potts and Trammell had violated DR 2-107(A). The Trial Board recommended that each receive a public reprimand. The Disciplinary Review Board agreed as to Potts and Hannon, but recommended a 30-day suspension for Trammell. We find that each accused violated the DR 2-106 proscription against charging “an illegal or clearly excessive fee.” We also find that Potts and Trammel violated DR 2-107(A). We find that Hannon did not violate DR 2-107(A).
FACTS1
Florin Becker and lone Becker were long-time residents of the Gresham area. They owned, individually or jointly, a number of parcels of real property. Potts was a neighbor whose acquaintance with the Beckers goes back to the early 1950s. The acquaintance ripened into a lawyer-client relationship. Potts’ relationship to the Beckers was not limited to that of lawyer to client; he also was a family friend and neighbor.
By the mid-to-late 1960s Potts was doing all the Beckers’ legal work. Potts drafted land sales contracts, handled real property transactions and successfully represented the Beckers in litigation arising from their real property transactions. In 1972, Potts did estate tax planning for the Beckers, including revision of their wills and division of their assets to reduce estate taxes and probate costs.
In 1973 Potts retired from the active practice of law and went on a year-long church mission to Indiana. Upon his return he maintained his professional license but not his office [60] facilities. He would prepare an occasional deed or contract upon request.
Mr. Becker died in September, 1979. Mrs. Becker, named in the will as personal representative, asked Potts to handle the probate of her late husband’s estate. Potts agreed to do so, but told Mrs. Becker that he would require the assistance of a “young man with a firm in Portland” to handle the court work, tax matters and stenographic services. Mrs. Becker agreed. Potts then assisted Mrs. Becker and her stepdaughter, Florene (Becker) Cranmer, in preparing an inventory of Florin Becker’s estate.
In September of 1979 Potts contacted Trammell, a partner in the firm of Pattullo, Gleason, Scarborough, Tram-mell and Hannon (the firm). Potts and Trammell agreed that Potts would handle client contacts with Mrs. Becker; Tram-mell and his firm would handle the court and tax work and prepare the estate documents. Trammell told Potts that the firm would charge for their services by the hour. Potts did not inform Trammell of his method of charging the client. Potts and Trammell agreed not to set a fee until they determined what was involved in the estate. Neither Trammell nor Potts discussed the fee with Mrs. Becker.
Trammell drafted and Mrs. Becker signed a “petition for probate of will and appointment of personal representative.” This document nominated Mrs. Becker as the personal representative and stated that the firm of Pattullo, Gleason, Scarborough, Trammell and Hannon and Clarence A. Potts had been employed to assist the personal representative in the probate of the estate. On September 24, 1979, Mrs. Becker was appointed personal representative.
Mr. Becker’s estate consisted of parcels of real property, the vendor’s interests in certain real property contracts, stocks, bonds, and other personal property inventoried at an initial value of $212,688. An amended inventory put the value at $197,092. With the firm handling the court work and tax matters, Potts acted as information gatherer and go-between between Mrs. Becker and the firm. In the course of the probate, Potts made about 25 trips to the Becker residence. Some of the trips were to obtain Mrs. Becker’s signature on probate documents. The visits usually lasted 15 to 20 minutes, though some were longer. Sometimes Mrs. Becker would keep [61] overnight the documents that Potts had delivered to study them before signing. Mrs. Becker was alert, experienced, meticulous and conscientious in performing her duty as personal representative. She scrutinized each document presented to her for signature.
Potts also assisted in obtaining values of some of the assets of the estate. Potts testified that valuation of some assets raised unique valuation problems not usually encountered in probating estates of this size. He testified that determining the value of the municipal bonds was time-consuming. He also testified that it was difficult to evaluate the estate’s interest in some of the real property contracts.
Potts, Trammell and John Mangelsdorf (Man-glesdorf), the firm associate who did the bulk of the estate preparation and tax work for the Becker estate, testified that much time was taken up responding to queries initiated by Mrs. Cranmer, trustee of a testamentary trust under the will. The trust was the main beneficiary. Potts, Trammell and Mangelsdorf stated that Mrs. Cranmer, a resident of Arizona, would review the probate documents with a son who was a certified public accountant. Mrs. Cranmer would forward questions to Mrs. Becker who would inquire of Potts, who would ask Trammell. He, in turn, would consult with Man-gelsdorf. Mangelsdorf s answer would follow the same route in reverse. Mangelsdorf s questions regarding the preparation of the inventory of estate assets and other estate documents were handled the same way. This process essentially continued throughout the entire probate on all matters, not merely those related to questions initiated by the “Arizona heirs.” Mrs. Becker testified that she did not recall Mrs. Cranmer asking any large number of questions, even though she spoke with Cranmer weekly by phone.
Potts performed other tasks not generally identified with the provision of legal services. On at least four occasions, he took Mrs. Becker’s automobile in for servicing or repair. Potts also answered Mrs. Becker’s questions regarding her grandson’s use of her car, and counseled Mrs. Becker regarding personal friction between Mrs. Becker and Mrs. Cranmer.
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PER CURIAM
This attorney discipline case involves three attorneys. It arises out of their representation of the estate of Florin J. Becker, deceased. The Oregon State Bar filed complaints against Clarence A. Potts (Potts), M. Lyle Trammell (Trammell), and Terry G. Hannon (Hannon), charging excessive fees (DR 2-106(A) and (B)) and fee splitting (DR 2-107(A)).
The Trial Board and the Disciplinary Review Board found that all three had violated DR 2-106(A), and that Potts and Trammell had violated DR 2-107(A). The Trial Board recommended that each receive a public reprimand. The Disciplinary Review Board agreed as to Potts and Hannon, but recommended a 30-day suspension for Trammell. We find that each accused violated the DR 2-106 proscription against charging “an illegal or clearly excessive fee.” We also find that Potts and Trammel violated DR 2-107(A). We find that Hannon did not violate DR 2-107(A).
FACTS1
Florin Becker and lone Becker were long-time residents of the Gresham area. They owned, individually or jointly, a number of parcels of real property. Potts was a neighbor whose acquaintance with the Beckers goes back to the early 1950s. The acquaintance ripened into a lawyer-client relationship. Potts’ relationship to the Beckers was not limited to that of lawyer to client; he also was a family friend and neighbor.
By the mid-to-late 1960s Potts was doing all the Beckers’ legal work. Potts drafted land sales contracts, handled real property transactions and successfully represented the Beckers in litigation arising from their real property transactions. In 1972, Potts did estate tax planning for the Beckers, including revision of their wills and division of their assets to reduce estate taxes and probate costs.
In 1973 Potts retired from the active practice of law and went on a year-long church mission to Indiana. Upon his return he maintained his professional license but not his office [60] facilities. He would prepare an occasional deed or contract upon request.
Mr. Becker died in September, 1979. Mrs. Becker, named in the will as personal representative, asked Potts to handle the probate of her late husband’s estate. Potts agreed to do so, but told Mrs. Becker that he would require the assistance of a “young man with a firm in Portland” to handle the court work, tax matters and stenographic services. Mrs. Becker agreed. Potts then assisted Mrs. Becker and her stepdaughter, Florene (Becker) Cranmer, in preparing an inventory of Florin Becker’s estate.
In September of 1979 Potts contacted Trammell, a partner in the firm of Pattullo, Gleason, Scarborough, Tram-mell and Hannon (the firm). Potts and Trammell agreed that Potts would handle client contacts with Mrs. Becker; Tram-mell and his firm would handle the court and tax work and prepare the estate documents. Trammell told Potts that the firm would charge for their services by the hour. Potts did not inform Trammell of his method of charging the client. Potts and Trammell agreed not to set a fee until they determined what was involved in the estate. Neither Trammell nor Potts discussed the fee with Mrs. Becker.
Trammell drafted and Mrs. Becker signed a “petition for probate of will and appointment of personal representative.” This document nominated Mrs. Becker as the personal representative and stated that the firm of Pattullo, Gleason, Scarborough, Trammell and Hannon and Clarence A. Potts had been employed to assist the personal representative in the probate of the estate. On September 24, 1979, Mrs. Becker was appointed personal representative.
Mr. Becker’s estate consisted of parcels of real property, the vendor’s interests in certain real property contracts, stocks, bonds, and other personal property inventoried at an initial value of $212,688. An amended inventory put the value at $197,092. With the firm handling the court work and tax matters, Potts acted as information gatherer and go-between between Mrs. Becker and the firm. In the course of the probate, Potts made about 25 trips to the Becker residence. Some of the trips were to obtain Mrs. Becker’s signature on probate documents. The visits usually lasted 15 to 20 minutes, though some were longer. Sometimes Mrs. Becker would keep [61] overnight the documents that Potts had delivered to study them before signing. Mrs. Becker was alert, experienced, meticulous and conscientious in performing her duty as personal representative. She scrutinized each document presented to her for signature.
Potts also assisted in obtaining values of some of the assets of the estate. Potts testified that valuation of some assets raised unique valuation problems not usually encountered in probating estates of this size. He testified that determining the value of the municipal bonds was time-consuming. He also testified that it was difficult to evaluate the estate’s interest in some of the real property contracts.
Potts, Trammell and John Mangelsdorf (Man-glesdorf), the firm associate who did the bulk of the estate preparation and tax work for the Becker estate, testified that much time was taken up responding to queries initiated by Mrs. Cranmer, trustee of a testamentary trust under the will. The trust was the main beneficiary. Potts, Trammell and Mangelsdorf stated that Mrs. Cranmer, a resident of Arizona, would review the probate documents with a son who was a certified public accountant. Mrs. Cranmer would forward questions to Mrs. Becker who would inquire of Potts, who would ask Trammell. He, in turn, would consult with Man-gelsdorf. Mangelsdorf s answer would follow the same route in reverse. Mangelsdorf s questions regarding the preparation of the inventory of estate assets and other estate documents were handled the same way. This process essentially continued throughout the entire probate on all matters, not merely those related to questions initiated by the “Arizona heirs.” Mrs. Becker testified that she did not recall Mrs. Cranmer asking any large number of questions, even though she spoke with Cranmer weekly by phone.
Potts performed other tasks not generally identified with the provision of legal services. On at least four occasions, he took Mrs. Becker’s automobile in for servicing or repair. Potts also answered Mrs. Becker’s questions regarding her grandson’s use of her car, and counseled Mrs. Becker regarding personal friction between Mrs. Becker and Mrs. Cranmer.
In August 1980, Trammell asked Mangelsdorf for a breakdown of the amount of time that the firm had invested in the Becker estate. He was surprised to discover that the firm [62] had $13,000 to $14,000 of time charged against the estate. Trammell decided to arrange for a partial payment of attorney fees. After reviewing his firm’s time sheets and a discussion with Potts, Trammell reduced the firm’s fee to $10,000. This amount included a sum sufficient to cover the work required to close the estate. The $4,000 reduction in the firm’s fee was made partly to offset a perceived “duplication of efforts” between Mangelsdorf and Trammell and between Potts and the firm. Potts, who kept no time records, simply picked an amount that he considered would compensate him for his time, effort and responsibility. Although not familiar with prevailing rates charged for similar services by attorneys practicing in the area, Potts set his fee at $9,000 after reading an article that stated attorney fees in the Portland area had increased threefold since 1972. He testified that he relied on the probate judge to determine whether his fee was fair.2
In August 1980, at Trammell’s direction, a “petition for partial payment of attorney’s fees” was prepared by Mangelsdorf and delivered to Mrs. Becker by Potts. The petition called for a partial payment of attorney fees in the amount of $15,200. Mrs. Becker kept the petition overnight and signed it the next day in the presence of both Pptts and Trammell without questioning either one or voicing any objection.
[63] The affidavit supporting the petition for partial payment of attorney fees presented to the probate judge stated:
“I, John C. Mangelsdorf, am an attorney licensed to practice law in the state of Oregon and hereby make this Affidavit in Support of the application of the Personal Representative to be allowed the sum of $15,200 for partial payment of reasonable attorneys’ fees and $49 for payment of miscellaneous costs incurred.
“The firm of PATTULLO, GLEASON, SCARBOROUGH, TRAMMELL AND HANNON, Attorneys at Law, P.C., has performed all services requested during the administration of the estate since September 12, 1979, the date of decedent’s death. The sum requested represents less than 80% of the total fee anticipated for legal services to be performed in the administration of this estate and I believe said fee is reasonable.
“The value of the estate as represented by the Amended Inventory on file herein was $197,092.”
The petition for partial payment of attorney fees stated that all federal and state income and inheritance taxes had been paid, that the Fiduciary Income Tax Return “will be filed shortly,” that all creditors had been paid, and that the remaining assets were sufficient to pay all remaining claims or expenses. The attorney fee request stated:
“1. The following partial payment can now be made from the assets of the estate without loss to creditors or injury to the estate or any interested persons:
“Reasonable Attorneys’ Fees in the amount of $15,200
“Miscellaneous attorneys costs of administration in the amount of $ 49”
The affidavit was signed by Mangelsdorf on August 18,1980. Mrs. Becker signed the petition with the impression that a judge would review the charges and services rendered for fairness. The judge who reviewed the petition saw only the signature of the personal representative and the bare bones affidavit quoted above. There was no way for the judge to tell from that record whether the fees claimed met the standards set forth in ORS 116.183. There is no reference to Mr. Potts in the petition or affidavit.
[64] Though she said nothing, Mrs. Becker was surprised by the amount of legal fees shown on the petition. On two earlier occasions she asked Potts for an explanation of what the attorney fees would be. The first time was in the spring of 1980. Potts told her that the probate court would set the fees. A second inquiry some time later left her without any real information on how the fee would be determined or what the fee would be. Instead, she came away only with the “impression it would be cheaper [if the attorneys set the fees] than if the court set them.” Her failure to object immediately was due primarily to the trust she had in her attorneys at that time. She agreed to pay whatever was “fair” for the services rendered.
In 1980, after signing the petition for partial payment of fees, Mrs. Becker left to spend Thanksgiving with the Cranmers in Arizona. While there she became more concerned with the amount of legal fees charged against the estate. When Mrs. Becker repeated her concerns to Potts, she received no satisfactory explanation. After learning of Mrs. Becker’s concerns upon her return from Arizona, Potts believed that he and Mrs. Becker could not agree on the amount of attorney fees. He came to the conclusion that their differences had to be settled in court. He testified that “there was no way for Mrs. Becker to settle that thing with me. We already decided that. So why would I [meet] with Mrs. Becker and argue about it. It was going to be decided in the court. So let’s have it decided in court.” Potts advised Mrs. Becker to make any further communications regarding the amount of the fee through Mrs. Cranmer. Potts informed Trammell of this conversation with Mrs. Becker and of her concern with regard to the attorney fees. Trammell did not seriously consider or address Mrs. Becker’s questions and doubts.
Other than some errors in dates and figures on the inventory which Mrs. Becker caught, there were no other major problems confronting her as personal representative that required her to contact Potts. Mrs. Becker seldom consulted Potts regarding her duties as personal representative, although she confirmed the 25 visits from Potts and about nine telephone conversations with Potts regarding estate business.
On December 15,1980, Mrs. Becker signed the “Final [65] Account and Petition for Decree of Final Distribution.” The petition contained an item showing $3,800 in attorney fees as remaining expenses of administration of the estate.
Shortly thereafter, a notice for the filing of objections was filed and mailed to the heirs. Mrs. Cranmer made an appointment with Mangelsdorf to discuss the amount of the attorney fees. By the time she arrived in Oregon for the meeting with Mangelsdorf, Mrs. Cranmer was convinced she did not have the expertise to assess whether Mangelsdorf s possible explanations of the size of the fee were reasonable. Because of her lack of expertise and her awareness that the deadline for filing objections to the final account was nearly upon her, Mrs. Cranmer sought the assistance of Roscoe Nelson, a Portland attorney, to prepare and file a formal objection to the final account. Mrs. Becker joined Mrs. Cranmer in Nelson’s office and supported Mrs. Cranmer’s position although only Mrs. Cranmer signed the objection. Mrs. Cranmer testified that she cancelled the appointment with Mangelsdorf.
After Mrs. Cranmer’s objection was filed, Mr. Hannon took over the case for the firm. Hannon was the firm’s litigator. Without contacting Mrs. Becker, Hannon began to prepare for the objection hearing. In fact, neither Potts, Trammell nor Mangelsdorf contacted Mrs. Becker regarding the objection hearing. In preparation for the objection hearing, Roscoe Nelson deposed Potts, Trammell and Mangelsdorf.
By March 6, 1981, the day of the objection hearing, Mrs. Becker still had not been contacted by any of “her” attorneys regarding the matter. Although it is disputed, Roscoe Nelson’s testimony that he informed the firm of Mrs. Becker’s position becomes more credible in light of Potts’ testimony above and the circumstances surrounding the objection hearing. Potts, Trammell, Hannon and Mangelsdorf attended the objection hearing to defend the fees they charged. Each claimed surprise to find Mrs. Becker there to testify for Mrs. Cranmer, the objecting party.
Upon discovering Mrs. Becker in the objector’s camp at the final account objection hearing, Hannon suggested that the objection had turned into a “fee dispute”. The parties agreed to submit the matter to fee arbitration. Roscoe Nelson [66] tendered a fee arbitration proposal to Potts and the firm, stating that $19,000 was the amount of the disputed fee. Thereafter, on March 25, 1981, Hannon sent Mrs. Becker a bill for $27,044.51. This sum included nearly all of the amount rejected as duplicative by Trammell, and nearly $5,000 for defending the fee claim. On March 26, 1981, the accused lawyers submitted an arbitration petition stating the amount in controversy as $27,044.51. The fee amount ultimately was resolved by the arbitration process. This proceeding followed.
THE APPLICABLE DISCIPLINAR Y R ULES
This case involves DR 2-106(A) and (B) and DR 2rl07(A). DR 2-106(A) provides:
“A lawyer shall not enter into an agreement for, charge or collect an illegal or clearly excessive fee.”
Before December 30, 1970, Oregon, like most states, did not sanction attorneys for the size of their fee unless they charged a “fee so exorbitant and wholly disproportionate to the services performed as to shock the conscience of those to whose attention it is called.” In re Richards, 202 Or 262, 264, 274 P2d 797, 797 (1954). On December 30, 1970, this court adopted a Code of Professional Responsibility that included DR 2-106(A) and (B) in their present form. The uncons-cionability standard was replaced by the “clearly excessive” standard defined by DR 2-106(B):
“A fee is clearly excessive when, after a review of the facts, a lawyer of ordinary prudence would be left with a definite and firm conviction that the fee is in excess of a reasonable fee. Factors to be considered as guides in determining the reasonableness of a fee include