MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER
SHADUR, District Judge.
Dennis Harris (“Harris”) has just sued William “Bud” Johnson (“Johnson”) under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 (“Section 1983”), charging Harris’ constitutional rights were violated when he was fired as Chief of Police for the City of Plano. Based on its initial review of Harris’ Complaint,1 this Court sua sponte directs his counsel to address the obvious threshold problem presented by his claim as asserted.
Harris complains that Johnson (Plano’s Mayor2) discharged Harris from his post as Chief of Police (Complaint ¶ 14), then explained the charges against Harris to a closed meeting Johnson held with the Plano City Council (Complaint ¶¶ 16-19). Harris invokes federal jurisdiction under Section [848]*8481983 on the basis that Johnson’s action deprived Harris “of a Fourteenth Amendment liberty interest without due process of law” (Complaint 113).
Because Harris does not assert deprivation of a property interest as the result of his firing, the only reasonable inference from the Complaint is that his service as Chief of Police was entirely at will, rather than a tenured position (see, e.g., Jungels v. Pierce, 825 F.2d 1127, 1130 (7th Cir.1987) and cases cited there).3 That being the case, the Section 1983 jurisprudence as to such property deprivations does not come into play.4 Instead Harris’ hope for federal jurisdiction and federal relief must look to Paul v. Davis, 424 U.S. 693, 96 S.Ct. 1155, 47 L.Ed.2d 405 (1976) and its progeny.
But the Paul v. Davis message is crystal-clear: Liberty deprivations via job terminations must rest on “stigma plus” to be actionable under Section 1983 (id. at 701-10, 96 S.Ct. at 1160-65; and see, e.g., among the many cases following Paul v. Davis in explicating and applying that doctrine, Bone v. City of Lafayette, Ind., 763 F.2d 295, 297-99 (7th Cir.1985)). And all Harris alleges here (Complaint ¶¶ 21-23) is the sort of generalized “stigma” that likely attaches to every individual who is discharged from a job such as the one Harris held. Indeed, Harris actually negates the type of fact pattern that under the case law may provide or may lead to the “plus” required by Paul v. Davis: a defamation linked with firing that effectively forecloses the employee from future employment — and thus constitutes a deprivation of that liberty interest (see Larry v. Lawler, 605 F.2d 954, 958 (7th Cir.1978)). Here not only was the entire discussion about the charges against Harris conducted at a nonpublic meeting, but any documents setting out those charges were destroyed by shredding (Complaint ¶ 20).
Accordingly Harris’ Complaint appears to carry its own death warrant in Section 1983 terms. Unless on or before December 27, 1989 Harris files in this Court’s chambers an Amended Complaint (or a memorandum in support of the existing Complaint) setting forth a viable basis for proceeding in this federal forum, this action will be dismissed forthwith for lack of subject matter jurisdiction.5
ON COUNSEL’S MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF COMPLAINT
This Court’s December 13, 1989 memorandum opinion and order (the “Opinion”) focused the attention of counsel for Dennis Harris (“Harris”) on what Opinion at 847 termed “the obvious threshold problem presented by [Harris’] claim as asserted” against William “Bud” Johnson (“Johnson”) under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 (“Section 1983”). Harris has chosen one of the two alternatives suggested by Opinion at 848 —his counsel has filed a Memorandum in Support of Complaint.1
But Harris’ counsel has missed entirely the thrust of both the Opinion and the case law it drew to counsel’s attention. Counsel says this in Harris’ Memorandum at 1, 2-3 (citations omitted):
Specifically, it is Plaintiff’s contention that HARRIS was denied his liberty to follow his trade or profession by his firing, the circumstances of which were highly secretive and kept private causing massive speculation of impropriety, thus [849]*849creating a “stigma plus” which is actionable under Section 1983.
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In the present case, HARRIS was the Chief of Police for the City of Plano for approximately seven years. The mayor, JOHNSON, notified HARRIS that he would be fired prior to covening [sic] a closed door meeting of the City Counsel [sic]. This meeting was termed “unorthodox” by local publications. The City Counsel upheld the firing after charges were disseminated to various Counsel members. A document which was later prepared to be released to the press outlining the charges was destroyed in addition to all notes and minutes of the “unorthodox” closed door meeting. The hiding of charges along with JOHNSON’S consistent response of “no comment” to the press has caused massive speculation in the community that HARRIS’ official conduct was improper and unlawful. JOHNSON’S conduct has caused this massive speculation among the community and the press. More importantly, JOHNSON’S conduct has made it impossible for HARRIS to find suitable employment elsewhere.2
That turns the “stigma-plus” doctrine adverted to in the Opinion squarely on its head. Where a liberty and not a property interest in employment forms the gravamen of a Section 1983 claim, the essential “stigma” component must take the form of a 'public statement of the grounds that have triggered the plaintiff’s firing from his public employment. Harris’ counsel has done some limited research in this area of law beyond the cases cited in the Opinion as exemplifying the doctrine, but that research just did not go far enough: Although one case that counsel cites is Colaizzi v. Walker, 542 F.2d 969 (7th Cir. 1976), further recourse to either Shepard’s or LEXIS or Westlaw would have led counsel to the later opinion in Colaizzi v. Walker, 812 F.2d 304 (7th Cir.1987), which spells the matter out chapter and verse and explains exactly why Harris does not have a viable Section 1983 claim. Rather than attempting to restate Colaizzi, this Court simply reproduces 812 F.2d at 307 as an Appendix to this opinion.3
Johnson’s conduct in avoiding publicity as to the reasons for Harris’ firing— Johnson’s consistent response of “no comment” to all inquiries on that score — conclusively negates, rather than establishing, the purported Section 1983 claim.
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MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER
SHADUR, District Judge.
Dennis Harris (“Harris”) has just sued William “Bud” Johnson (“Johnson”) under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 (“Section 1983”), charging Harris’ constitutional rights were violated when he was fired as Chief of Police for the City of Plano. Based on its initial review of Harris’ Complaint,1 this Court sua sponte directs his counsel to address the obvious threshold problem presented by his claim as asserted.
Harris complains that Johnson (Plano’s Mayor2) discharged Harris from his post as Chief of Police (Complaint ¶ 14), then explained the charges against Harris to a closed meeting Johnson held with the Plano City Council (Complaint ¶¶ 16-19). Harris invokes federal jurisdiction under Section [848]*8481983 on the basis that Johnson’s action deprived Harris “of a Fourteenth Amendment liberty interest without due process of law” (Complaint 113).
Because Harris does not assert deprivation of a property interest as the result of his firing, the only reasonable inference from the Complaint is that his service as Chief of Police was entirely at will, rather than a tenured position (see, e.g., Jungels v. Pierce, 825 F.2d 1127, 1130 (7th Cir.1987) and cases cited there).3 That being the case, the Section 1983 jurisprudence as to such property deprivations does not come into play.4 Instead Harris’ hope for federal jurisdiction and federal relief must look to Paul v. Davis, 424 U.S. 693, 96 S.Ct. 1155, 47 L.Ed.2d 405 (1976) and its progeny.
But the Paul v. Davis message is crystal-clear: Liberty deprivations via job terminations must rest on “stigma plus” to be actionable under Section 1983 (id. at 701-10, 96 S.Ct. at 1160-65; and see, e.g., among the many cases following Paul v. Davis in explicating and applying that doctrine, Bone v. City of Lafayette, Ind., 763 F.2d 295, 297-99 (7th Cir.1985)). And all Harris alleges here (Complaint ¶¶ 21-23) is the sort of generalized “stigma” that likely attaches to every individual who is discharged from a job such as the one Harris held. Indeed, Harris actually negates the type of fact pattern that under the case law may provide or may lead to the “plus” required by Paul v. Davis: a defamation linked with firing that effectively forecloses the employee from future employment — and thus constitutes a deprivation of that liberty interest (see Larry v. Lawler, 605 F.2d 954, 958 (7th Cir.1978)). Here not only was the entire discussion about the charges against Harris conducted at a nonpublic meeting, but any documents setting out those charges were destroyed by shredding (Complaint ¶ 20).
Accordingly Harris’ Complaint appears to carry its own death warrant in Section 1983 terms. Unless on or before December 27, 1989 Harris files in this Court’s chambers an Amended Complaint (or a memorandum in support of the existing Complaint) setting forth a viable basis for proceeding in this federal forum, this action will be dismissed forthwith for lack of subject matter jurisdiction.5
ON COUNSEL’S MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF COMPLAINT
This Court’s December 13, 1989 memorandum opinion and order (the “Opinion”) focused the attention of counsel for Dennis Harris (“Harris”) on what Opinion at 847 termed “the obvious threshold problem presented by [Harris’] claim as asserted” against William “Bud” Johnson (“Johnson”) under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 (“Section 1983”). Harris has chosen one of the two alternatives suggested by Opinion at 848 —his counsel has filed a Memorandum in Support of Complaint.1
But Harris’ counsel has missed entirely the thrust of both the Opinion and the case law it drew to counsel’s attention. Counsel says this in Harris’ Memorandum at 1, 2-3 (citations omitted):
Specifically, it is Plaintiff’s contention that HARRIS was denied his liberty to follow his trade or profession by his firing, the circumstances of which were highly secretive and kept private causing massive speculation of impropriety, thus [849]*849creating a “stigma plus” which is actionable under Section 1983.
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In the present case, HARRIS was the Chief of Police for the City of Plano for approximately seven years. The mayor, JOHNSON, notified HARRIS that he would be fired prior to covening [sic] a closed door meeting of the City Counsel [sic]. This meeting was termed “unorthodox” by local publications. The City Counsel upheld the firing after charges were disseminated to various Counsel members. A document which was later prepared to be released to the press outlining the charges was destroyed in addition to all notes and minutes of the “unorthodox” closed door meeting. The hiding of charges along with JOHNSON’S consistent response of “no comment” to the press has caused massive speculation in the community that HARRIS’ official conduct was improper and unlawful. JOHNSON’S conduct has caused this massive speculation among the community and the press. More importantly, JOHNSON’S conduct has made it impossible for HARRIS to find suitable employment elsewhere.2
That turns the “stigma-plus” doctrine adverted to in the Opinion squarely on its head. Where a liberty and not a property interest in employment forms the gravamen of a Section 1983 claim, the essential “stigma” component must take the form of a 'public statement of the grounds that have triggered the plaintiff’s firing from his public employment. Harris’ counsel has done some limited research in this area of law beyond the cases cited in the Opinion as exemplifying the doctrine, but that research just did not go far enough: Although one case that counsel cites is Colaizzi v. Walker, 542 F.2d 969 (7th Cir. 1976), further recourse to either Shepard’s or LEXIS or Westlaw would have led counsel to the later opinion in Colaizzi v. Walker, 812 F.2d 304 (7th Cir.1987), which spells the matter out chapter and verse and explains exactly why Harris does not have a viable Section 1983 claim. Rather than attempting to restate Colaizzi, this Court simply reproduces 812 F.2d at 307 as an Appendix to this opinion.3
Johnson’s conduct in avoiding publicity as to the reasons for Harris’ firing— Johnson’s consistent response of “no comment” to all inquiries on that score — conclusively negates, rather than establishing, the purported Section 1983 claim. That is the message that Opinion at 848 sought to deliver, but Harris’ counsel have simply failed to recognize it.
Where as here the claim is so wanting in an essential ingredient for federal jurisdiction, dismissal for lack of subject matter jurisdiction is the proper course. This action is dismissed on jurisdictional grounds.4
[850]*850APPENDIX
COLAIZZI v. WALKER
812 F.2d 304 at p. 307 (7th Cir.1987)
The public employee’s constitutional right not to be fired on “stigmatizing” grounds is one of the more mysterious innovations in modern constitutional law. Reputation is not “property” or “liberty” within the meaning of the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Paul v. Davis, 424 U.S. 693, 711-12, 96 S.Ct. 1155, 1165-66, 47 L.Ed.2d 405 (1976). If it were, defamation by a public official would be a federal tort, which no one believes. It seems odd that merely because a defamatory statement (not a deprivation of liberty) is coupled with firing an employee-at-will (not a deprivation of property), the public official is guilty of a federal tort. It sounds like the legal equivalent of 0 + 0 = 1. One might have thought that the only significance of the firing would be to make it easier for the victim to prove damages in a suit in state court for defamation, assuming he wasn’t promptly hired in an equally good job.
To understand the tort you must go back to its origins (discussed in Board of Regents v. Roth, 408 U.S. 564, 573-74, 92 S.Ct. 2701, 2707-08, 33 L.Ed.2d 548 (1972)) in cases where public employees were fired for suspected Communist sympathies. See, e.g., Joint Anti-Fascist Refugee Comm. v. McGrath, 341 U.S. 123, 185, 71 S.Ct. 624, 655, 95 L.Ed. 817 (1951) (Jackson, J., concurring). In the atmosphere of those times, employees fired on such grounds found it difficult to land equally responsible jobs, public or private. The circumstances of discharge, at least if they were publicly stated, had the effect of blacklisting the employee from employment in comparable jobs. If a state or the federal government formally banned a person from a whole category of employment, it would be infringing liberty of occupation — a component of the liberty that the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment protect, and recognized as such almost since the beginning of this nation. See Bigby v. City of Chicago, 766 F.2d 1053, 1057 (7th Cir.1985). If it did this without due process of law, therefore, it would be violating the Constitution. By firing a worker on publicly stated grounds that kill his chances for further employment in his chosen occupation, the government in effect excludes him from that occupation, and thus deprives him of liberty in a Fourteenth Amendment sense, and thus must give him due process of law. See id., Lawson v. Sheriff of Tippecanoe County, 725 F.2d 1136, 1138-39 (7th Cir.1984).
That the interest protected is occupational liberty rather than reputation was made reasonably clear by Paul v. Davis, supra, which held that reputation is not property or liberty in the constitutional sense. Some cases continue to suggest that defamation coupled with firing is a deprivation of liberty, see, e.g., Perry v. FBI, 781 F.2d 1294, 1300 (7th Cir.1986) (en banc); but since neither reputation nor government employment at will is an aspect of the liberty (or property) protected by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, these cases are better explained as holding that to fire a worker to the accompaniment of public charges that make it unlikely that anyone will hire him for a comparable job infringes his liberty of occupation. See Goulding v. Feinglass, 811 F.2d 1099, 1102-03 (7th Cir.1987).