Taylor, J.
The main question in the case arises upon the objection to the evidence offered by the defendants in support of their answer. Whether the objection should have [212]*212been sustained by th‘6 court below, depends upon the question of the negotiability of the notes upon which the action was brought. If these notes were negotiable according to the law merchant, then, as the evidence shows that the plaintiff Avas a purchaser in good faith and for value before they became due, the proofs offered by the defendants should have been excluded. The question of their negotiability raises two points: (1) Were they negotiable upon their face? and (2) Were they negotiable when considered in connection with the chattel mortgage, which was given at the same time and as a part of the same transaction? As to both questions there is clearly a conflict of authority in other courts, and this court has not passed upon the precise questions raised upon this appeal. Upon the face of the notes they have all the elements of negotiable paper as to time and place of payment, and as to amount to be paid, unless the condition that if not paid when due and before suit brought, ten per centum attorney’s fees shall be collectible in addition for collecting the same. Whether this stipulation in the notes takes away their character of negotiability, is a disputed question in the courts. This question was referred to by Justice LyoN in the opinion in the .case of Morgan v. Edwards, 53 Wis., 599, and the cases sustaining the different views of the courts were cited upon the argument of that case, but the precise point raised in this case was not determined. This court held in that case that where there was a stipulation to pay expenses of collection, which expenses might as well be demanded when the collection was made at the time the note became due, as when collected after due, such stipulation necessarily rendered the amount to be paid on the instrument uncertain, and so rendered the paper non-negotiable.
In the case at bar there is no uncertainty as to the amount which will pay the notes in suit, if payment be made before or at the time the same become due or before suit brought; [213]*213and if the stipulation to pay ten per cent, for collection renders the amount uncertain, it only renders it so after the note is past due, and when an action is brought to collect the same. Whether this stipulation renders uncertain the amount recoverable upon the notes in question, depends, first, upon xhe question whether the stipulation is valid for any purpose; and, second, whether the amount stipulated to be paid is conclusive upon the parties as to the amount which may be recovered for such costs. This court has repeatedly held that a stipulation in a mortgage to pay attor-ne3^’s or solicitor’s fees, other than the taxable costs, in case it becomes necessary to foreclose the same, is not void and will be enforced when the amount stipulated to be paid is reasonable. See Boyd v. Sumner, 10 Wis., 41; Rice v. Cribb, 12 Wis., 179; Hitchcock v. Merrick, 15 Wis., 522; Mosher v. Chapin, 12 Wis., 453; Tollman v. Truesdell, 3 Wis., 443; Reed v. Catlin, 49 Wis., 686, 691. The amount, therefore, fixed by the parties is not conclusive upon the defendant, and the amount to be recovered under such a stipulation must be fixed by the court or jury on the trial of the action.
In some of the states, viz., in Michigan and Kentucky, such stipulations are held void as contrary to public policy and the statutes regulating costs recoverable in actions. See Bullock v. Taylor, 39 Mich., 137; Witherspoon v. Musselman, 14 Bush, 214. In other states they are held binding, and as this court has held them valid in case of mortgages, to be consistent, they must be held valid when applied to the collection of money on notes or securities other than mortgages. It must be admitted, therefore, that a stipulation of this kind does render the amount recoverable on the notes uncertain when an action is brought upon them in this state. When the amount recoverable in an action upon a written contract, whether in the form of a promissory note or otherwise, is uncertain, such instrument is not negotiable, [214]*214is held by most of the courts which have considered the question.
In the opinion of the supreme court of Pennsylvania in Woods v. Worth, 84 Pa. St., 407, Justice Shaeswood, who delivered the opinion in that case, says: “But in the paper now in question there enters as to amount an undoubted element of uncertainty. It is a mistake to suppose that if this ■note was unpaid at maturity, the five per cent, would be payable to the holder by the parties. It must go into the hands of an attorney for collection. It is not a sum necessarily payable. The phrase ‘collection fee’ necessarily implies this. Not only so, but this amount of percentage cannot be arbitrarily determined by the parties. It must? be only what would be a reasonable compensation to an attorney for collection. This, in reason and usage of the legal profession, depends upon the amount of the note. . . . How, then, can this note be said to be certain as to its amount, or an amount unaffected by any contingency? Interest and costs of protest, after nonpayment at maturity, are necessary legal incidents of the contract, and the insertion of them in the body of the note would not affect its negotiability. . . . But a collateral agreement, as here, depending, too, as it does, upon its reasonableness, to be determined by the verdict of a jury,' is entirely different. ... If this collateral agreement may be introduced with impunity, what may not be? ” To the same effect upon the same point are Garretson v. Purdy (Dakota), 14 N. W. Rep., 100; Jones v. Radatz, 27 Minn., 240; First Wat. Bank v. Gay, 63 Mo., 88; Hardin v. Olson, 14 Fed. Rep., 705; First Wat. Bank v. Bynum, 84 N. C., 24.
In a late case in the supreme court of Maryland the rule laid down in the cases above cited is approved and followed, after a full consideration of the cases holding a contrary doctrine. Maryland F. & M. Co. v. Newman, 60 Md., 584. In this case, the court say that, to constitute a note ne[215]*215gotiable under the law merchant, it is essential that the promise must be “ to pay a certain sum of money unconditionally.” The court further say: “ It is of great importance to the use and office of such. commercial negotiable instruments as bills and notes, that they should be kept free of all conditions, and singular and unusual stipulations, such as we find on the face of the note in question, whereby their negotiability might be seriously clogged or impeded. ... In the note declared on in this case, the stipulation, for the payment of all costs and charges incurred in the collection of the note introduces an element of uncertainty quite inconsistent with the degree of certainty required as to the sum to be paid. The costs and charges of collection could never-withaccuracy be known until the collection had been made complete; and hence, by computing the certain sum mentioned in the note with that which is uncertain, and treating the note as an entire contract, it is for an uncertain sum, and therefore uncertain on its face as to the amount proposed to be paid. This, -as we have seen, is not allowable in notes intended to be negotiable.”
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Taylor, J.
The main question in the case arises upon the objection to the evidence offered by the defendants in support of their answer. Whether the objection should have [212]*212been sustained by th‘6 court below, depends upon the question of the negotiability of the notes upon which the action was brought. If these notes were negotiable according to the law merchant, then, as the evidence shows that the plaintiff Avas a purchaser in good faith and for value before they became due, the proofs offered by the defendants should have been excluded. The question of their negotiability raises two points: (1) Were they negotiable upon their face? and (2) Were they negotiable when considered in connection with the chattel mortgage, which was given at the same time and as a part of the same transaction? As to both questions there is clearly a conflict of authority in other courts, and this court has not passed upon the precise questions raised upon this appeal. Upon the face of the notes they have all the elements of negotiable paper as to time and place of payment, and as to amount to be paid, unless the condition that if not paid when due and before suit brought, ten per centum attorney’s fees shall be collectible in addition for collecting the same. Whether this stipulation in the notes takes away their character of negotiability, is a disputed question in the courts. This question was referred to by Justice LyoN in the opinion in the .case of Morgan v. Edwards, 53 Wis., 599, and the cases sustaining the different views of the courts were cited upon the argument of that case, but the precise point raised in this case was not determined. This court held in that case that where there was a stipulation to pay expenses of collection, which expenses might as well be demanded when the collection was made at the time the note became due, as when collected after due, such stipulation necessarily rendered the amount to be paid on the instrument uncertain, and so rendered the paper non-negotiable.
In the case at bar there is no uncertainty as to the amount which will pay the notes in suit, if payment be made before or at the time the same become due or before suit brought; [213]*213and if the stipulation to pay ten per cent, for collection renders the amount uncertain, it only renders it so after the note is past due, and when an action is brought to collect the same. Whether this stipulation renders uncertain the amount recoverable upon the notes in question, depends, first, upon xhe question whether the stipulation is valid for any purpose; and, second, whether the amount stipulated to be paid is conclusive upon the parties as to the amount which may be recovered for such costs. This court has repeatedly held that a stipulation in a mortgage to pay attor-ne3^’s or solicitor’s fees, other than the taxable costs, in case it becomes necessary to foreclose the same, is not void and will be enforced when the amount stipulated to be paid is reasonable. See Boyd v. Sumner, 10 Wis., 41; Rice v. Cribb, 12 Wis., 179; Hitchcock v. Merrick, 15 Wis., 522; Mosher v. Chapin, 12 Wis., 453; Tollman v. Truesdell, 3 Wis., 443; Reed v. Catlin, 49 Wis., 686, 691. The amount, therefore, fixed by the parties is not conclusive upon the defendant, and the amount to be recovered under such a stipulation must be fixed by the court or jury on the trial of the action.
In some of the states, viz., in Michigan and Kentucky, such stipulations are held void as contrary to public policy and the statutes regulating costs recoverable in actions. See Bullock v. Taylor, 39 Mich., 137; Witherspoon v. Musselman, 14 Bush, 214. In other states they are held binding, and as this court has held them valid in case of mortgages, to be consistent, they must be held valid when applied to the collection of money on notes or securities other than mortgages. It must be admitted, therefore, that a stipulation of this kind does render the amount recoverable on the notes uncertain when an action is brought upon them in this state. When the amount recoverable in an action upon a written contract, whether in the form of a promissory note or otherwise, is uncertain, such instrument is not negotiable, [214]*214is held by most of the courts which have considered the question.
In the opinion of the supreme court of Pennsylvania in Woods v. Worth, 84 Pa. St., 407, Justice Shaeswood, who delivered the opinion in that case, says: “But in the paper now in question there enters as to amount an undoubted element of uncertainty. It is a mistake to suppose that if this ■note was unpaid at maturity, the five per cent, would be payable to the holder by the parties. It must go into the hands of an attorney for collection. It is not a sum necessarily payable. The phrase ‘collection fee’ necessarily implies this. Not only so, but this amount of percentage cannot be arbitrarily determined by the parties. It must? be only what would be a reasonable compensation to an attorney for collection. This, in reason and usage of the legal profession, depends upon the amount of the note. . . . How, then, can this note be said to be certain as to its amount, or an amount unaffected by any contingency? Interest and costs of protest, after nonpayment at maturity, are necessary legal incidents of the contract, and the insertion of them in the body of the note would not affect its negotiability. . . . But a collateral agreement, as here, depending, too, as it does, upon its reasonableness, to be determined by the verdict of a jury,' is entirely different. ... If this collateral agreement may be introduced with impunity, what may not be? ” To the same effect upon the same point are Garretson v. Purdy (Dakota), 14 N. W. Rep., 100; Jones v. Radatz, 27 Minn., 240; First Wat. Bank v. Gay, 63 Mo., 88; Hardin v. Olson, 14 Fed. Rep., 705; First Wat. Bank v. Bynum, 84 N. C., 24.
In a late case in the supreme court of Maryland the rule laid down in the cases above cited is approved and followed, after a full consideration of the cases holding a contrary doctrine. Maryland F. & M. Co. v. Newman, 60 Md., 584. In this case, the court say that, to constitute a note ne[215]*215gotiable under the law merchant, it is essential that the promise must be “ to pay a certain sum of money unconditionally.” The court further say: “ It is of great importance to the use and office of such. commercial negotiable instruments as bills and notes, that they should be kept free of all conditions, and singular and unusual stipulations, such as we find on the face of the note in question, whereby their negotiability might be seriously clogged or impeded. ... In the note declared on in this case, the stipulation, for the payment of all costs and charges incurred in the collection of the note introduces an element of uncertainty quite inconsistent with the degree of certainty required as to the sum to be paid. The costs and charges of collection could never-withaccuracy be known until the collection had been made complete; and hence, by computing the certain sum mentioned in the note with that which is uncertain, and treating the note as an entire contract, it is for an uncertain sum, and therefore uncertain on its face as to the amount proposed to be paid. This, -as we have seen, is not allowable in notes intended to be negotiable.”
The condition in the note in question in the case in the Maryland court was as follows, after promising to pay a certain fixed sum on a day certain: “And if not paid when due, promised and agreed to pay all costs and charges for collecting the same, with interest.” The effect of the condition in the notes in the case at bar is the same as in the Maryland case, for although the condition is to pay “'ten per cent, for collection fee,” yet this stipulation as to collection fee must be construed, according to the rule laid down by this court, to mean a reasonable collection fee not exceeding ten per cent., and so becomes just as uncertain as the stipulation in the Maryland case and the other cases above cited.
The following cases hold that a stipulation in a note to pay collection fees, either of designated or uncertain amount, [216]*216in. case suit be brought to recover tbe amount due on the note, does not take away its negotiability. Stoneman v. Pyle, 35 Ind., 103; Wyant v. Pottorf, 37 Ind., 512; Sperry v. Horr, 32 Iowa, 184; Seaton v. Scoville, 18 Kan., 433; Dietrich v. Bayhi, 23 La. Ann., 767. These last cases place their decisions upon the ground that it is sufficient if the amount is certain which will discharge the note if paid when due, and that any stipulations which render the amount uncertain only in case payment is not made until after the same is past due, does not take away the negotiability of the note.
We think the rule laid down by the courts which hold the notes not negotiable when the amount recoverable by action is not certain and fixed, is the better rule, and that the public interests require that negotiable promissory notes should not be connected with other collateral agreements which render the amount recoverable thereon uncertain. If the interests of manufacturers and vendors of manufactured articles require the taking of instruments of the kind in suit in this case, they should be compelled to take them subject to all the equities which exist between the parties, and they should not be permitted to avoid those equities by treating them as negotiable notes. If they embody in them stipulations or agreements which are not negotiable, it is but just to hold the whole instrument not negotiable.
In this view of the case it becomes unnecessary to decide what effect, if any, the stipulation in the chattel mortgage, that if the first note was not paid when due the other two should become payable immediately thereafter, would have upon the negotiable character of the notes, nor whether the holder of the notes is in a situation to avail himself of that stipulation in an action at law to recover the amount due on the notes. Holding that the notes were not negotiable upon their face, we may admit, for the purposes of this appeal, that the action was not prematurely brought upon the second [217]*217and. third notes; and still it follows that the court did not err in permitting the defendants to prove their defense to the plaintiff’s action.
Some exceptions were taken to evidence offered by the defendants. "We are clear that the court properly overruled the objection to such evidence. We are also very clear that the court did not err in refusing to hold, as a matter of law, that the defendants had waived their right to return the machine to the vendors, under the conditions of the contract, by an unreasonable delay. That was clearly a question for the jury under the evidence. The facts proved do not bring the case within the rule laid down by this court in the cases of Boothby v. Scales, 27 Wis., 626; Paige v. McMillan, 41 Wis., 337; and Gammon v. Abrams, 53 Wis., 323. In these cases this court says that “ the general rule is, however, that the vendee must proceed with reasonable diligence to test the article, and if it proves defective must promptly notify the vendor of the defects therein, and offer to return it.’! These cases also hold that what is reasonable diligence in this matter is usually a question of fact for the jury, and not for the court; and it is only where the delay to return, or offer to return, is long continued after -the defect complained of is discovered, that the court will hold as a matter of law that the right to return is lost. The evidence in'this case does not show such delay in notifying the vendors of the defects in the machine, or in returning the machine after it was ascertained that the defects had not been removed by the agent of the vendors, as would justify the court in deciding as a matter of law that the right to return had been waived or forfeited by the purchasers.
We find no errors in the record which would justify this court in reversing the judgment.
By the Court.— The judgment of the circuit court is affirmed.