PER CURIAM:
Florida, by statute, restricts the use of state money for travel by state employees to countries that the federal government has listed as “State Sponsors of Terrorism.”
See
Fla. Stat. §§ 112.061(3)(e), 1011.90(6). Some professors and researchers at different state universities in Florida contend, on a variety of grounds, that the Act cannot be enforced.
In this appeal, they say that the Florida Act obstructs and conflicts with federal law and that the Act intrudes upon the federal government’s power to control foreign affairs for our country.
The United States, although invited early on to take part in the case, is not a party to the case- or otherwise involved in the litigation. No foreign country is involved in this litigation either. Nothing in the record suggests that the United States or any other government has complained about the Act to Florida or that some foreign government has complained to the federal government about the Act. But we understand that these facts are not controlling.
The Act prohibits the use, in connection with travel to state sponsors of terror, of funds made available by the State to state universities. Fla. Stat. § 1011.90(6).
The limitation on funds applies to both state money and other funds (typically funds contributed by third-party grantors such as private foundations) that are adminis
tered by the State (at state expense).
The Act also prohibits state involvement in reimbursement to state employees and officers for the same kinds of travel-related activities.
Fla. Stat. § 112.061(3)(e).
The Act controls the State’s own spending and, in this ease, state spending on education — two core, issues of traditional and legitimate state concern.
The district court granted Plaintiffs summary judgment in part and denied it in part.
In granting the partial summary judgment, the district court concluded that the Act’s limitation on non-state funds (that is, funds that came into state accounts from outside grantors but are administered by the State) was both preempted by federal law and violated the federal government’s foreign affairs power; but the district court denied summary judgment with respect to state funds. Our review of the district court’s disposition of this case on summary judgment is
de novo. Krutzig v. Pulte Home Corp.,
602 F.3d 1231, 1234 (11th Cir.2010). We cannot agree entirely with the district court.
We presume that the State can validly legislate on spending and on education matters. But we accept that, if a conflict with federal law or policy were plain enough, even these traditional state concerns could be overridden. We, however, do not see the Act as clashing sharply with federal law or policy. We conclude that the Act’s brush with federal law and the foreign affairs of the United States is too indirect, minor, incidental, and peripheral to trigger the Supremacy Clause’s — undoubted — overriding power.
No federal statute or regulation expressly requires States to pay for foreign travel for state university employees. No federal law says States cannot differentiate among foreign nations when it comes to spending for academic travel. And Plaintiffs do not contend that the Act has been expressly preempted by a federal statute. But, of course, the federal government does have a lot of laws dealing with how foreign countries — including those that sponsor terrorism — are to be treated. These federal laws touch on many subjects, mostly trade and financial matters.
In some in
stances, travel is restricted (even if one can afford to pay to go, the law does not allow it or allows it only in certain conditions). Most of the laws enable the Executive Branch to tighten or loosen sanctions in a discretionary way. Plaintiffs contend that Florida’s Act impedes these laws.
The Supreme Court has made some decisions that can guide our thinking about preemption and foreign affairs. Plaintiffs advance the
Crosby v. National Foreign Trade Council,
530 U.S. 363, 120 S.Ct. 2288, 147 L.Ed.2d 352 (2000), decision as controlling and commanding that Florida spend money for its university employees to travel. We accept
Crosby
is important, but we think it is too different from the present circumstances to help Plaintiffs.
Crosby
is a case in which a state statute conflicted with definite and identifiable federal laws on the same subject.
Id.
at 2290-92. Massachusetts enacted a law restricting its doing business with companies that did business with Burma: Burma, by name, was selected and singled out by Massachusetts.
Id.
at 2291. If a company traded with Burma, Massachusetts would not — in most circumstances — do business with the company.
Id.
The obvious idea was to reduce trade across-the-board with Burma. Later, the United States enacted legislation imposing sanctions on Burma and allowing the President to control trade to Burma as a means of influencing Burma’s policies.
Id.
at 2291-92. The Supreme Court concluded that the state statute conflicted with the federal Act in both the scope and type of economic sanctions imposed and undermined the President’s discretionary authority to control the imposition of economic sanctions on Burma.
Id.
at 2294. Therefore, the state act was preempted.
We think this case is different. Florida has not unilaterally selected by name a foreign country on which it has declared, in effect, some kind of economic war. Florida’s Act does not prohibit — as a matter of law- — anyone from traveling any place. And especially unlike
Crosby,
it does not penalize anyone for traveling any place. Nor does it penalize anyone for aiding or otherwise paying for someone else’s travel.
It does not prohibit travel— as a matter of state law — where federal law allows travel. It does not attempt to prohibit, or even to obstruct, trading broadly by anyone with anyone. Florida’s law is narrow. Nothing in the record shows that its practical impact, in reality, can be economically great on other countries.
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PER CURIAM:
Florida, by statute, restricts the use of state money for travel by state employees to countries that the federal government has listed as “State Sponsors of Terrorism.”
See
Fla. Stat. §§ 112.061(3)(e), 1011.90(6). Some professors and researchers at different state universities in Florida contend, on a variety of grounds, that the Act cannot be enforced.
In this appeal, they say that the Florida Act obstructs and conflicts with federal law and that the Act intrudes upon the federal government’s power to control foreign affairs for our country.
The United States, although invited early on to take part in the case, is not a party to the case- or otherwise involved in the litigation. No foreign country is involved in this litigation either. Nothing in the record suggests that the United States or any other government has complained about the Act to Florida or that some foreign government has complained to the federal government about the Act. But we understand that these facts are not controlling.
The Act prohibits the use, in connection with travel to state sponsors of terror, of funds made available by the State to state universities. Fla. Stat. § 1011.90(6).
The limitation on funds applies to both state money and other funds (typically funds contributed by third-party grantors such as private foundations) that are adminis
tered by the State (at state expense).
The Act also prohibits state involvement in reimbursement to state employees and officers for the same kinds of travel-related activities.
Fla. Stat. § 112.061(3)(e).
The Act controls the State’s own spending and, in this ease, state spending on education — two core, issues of traditional and legitimate state concern.
The district court granted Plaintiffs summary judgment in part and denied it in part.
In granting the partial summary judgment, the district court concluded that the Act’s limitation on non-state funds (that is, funds that came into state accounts from outside grantors but are administered by the State) was both preempted by federal law and violated the federal government’s foreign affairs power; but the district court denied summary judgment with respect to state funds. Our review of the district court’s disposition of this case on summary judgment is
de novo. Krutzig v. Pulte Home Corp.,
602 F.3d 1231, 1234 (11th Cir.2010). We cannot agree entirely with the district court.
We presume that the State can validly legislate on spending and on education matters. But we accept that, if a conflict with federal law or policy were plain enough, even these traditional state concerns could be overridden. We, however, do not see the Act as clashing sharply with federal law or policy. We conclude that the Act’s brush with federal law and the foreign affairs of the United States is too indirect, minor, incidental, and peripheral to trigger the Supremacy Clause’s — undoubted — overriding power.
No federal statute or regulation expressly requires States to pay for foreign travel for state university employees. No federal law says States cannot differentiate among foreign nations when it comes to spending for academic travel. And Plaintiffs do not contend that the Act has been expressly preempted by a federal statute. But, of course, the federal government does have a lot of laws dealing with how foreign countries — including those that sponsor terrorism — are to be treated. These federal laws touch on many subjects, mostly trade and financial matters.
In some in
stances, travel is restricted (even if one can afford to pay to go, the law does not allow it or allows it only in certain conditions). Most of the laws enable the Executive Branch to tighten or loosen sanctions in a discretionary way. Plaintiffs contend that Florida’s Act impedes these laws.
The Supreme Court has made some decisions that can guide our thinking about preemption and foreign affairs. Plaintiffs advance the
Crosby v. National Foreign Trade Council,
530 U.S. 363, 120 S.Ct. 2288, 147 L.Ed.2d 352 (2000), decision as controlling and commanding that Florida spend money for its university employees to travel. We accept
Crosby
is important, but we think it is too different from the present circumstances to help Plaintiffs.
Crosby
is a case in which a state statute conflicted with definite and identifiable federal laws on the same subject.
Id.
at 2290-92. Massachusetts enacted a law restricting its doing business with companies that did business with Burma: Burma, by name, was selected and singled out by Massachusetts.
Id.
at 2291. If a company traded with Burma, Massachusetts would not — in most circumstances — do business with the company.
Id.
The obvious idea was to reduce trade across-the-board with Burma. Later, the United States enacted legislation imposing sanctions on Burma and allowing the President to control trade to Burma as a means of influencing Burma’s policies.
Id.
at 2291-92. The Supreme Court concluded that the state statute conflicted with the federal Act in both the scope and type of economic sanctions imposed and undermined the President’s discretionary authority to control the imposition of economic sanctions on Burma.
Id.
at 2294. Therefore, the state act was preempted.
We think this case is different. Florida has not unilaterally selected by name a foreign country on which it has declared, in effect, some kind of economic war. Florida’s Act does not prohibit — as a matter of law- — anyone from traveling any place. And especially unlike
Crosby,
it does not penalize anyone for traveling any place. Nor does it penalize anyone for aiding or otherwise paying for someone else’s travel.
It does not prohibit travel— as a matter of state law — where federal law allows travel. It does not attempt to prohibit, or even to obstruct, trading broadly by anyone with anyone. Florida’s law is narrow. Nothing in the record shows that its practical impact, in reality, can be economically great on other countries.
It only prohibits spending Florida’s money to facilitate travel to countries determined by the federal government (not especially selected by Florida) to sponsor terrorism.
A State traditionally has had great control over its spending, especially for education: a local responsibility.
Cf. Epperson v. Arkansas,
393 U.S. 97, 89 S.Ct. 266, 270, 21 L.Ed.2d 228 (1968) (“By and large, public education in our Nation is committed to the control of state and local authorities.”) The States are always faced with choices about how best to spend limited resources for education. What educational programs give the most value for the money? Should this program be cut back to let this one grow? Concerns about student and faculty safety are legitimate considerations for spending. And avoiding potential in-state scandals about entanglement with foreign espionage (Florida had recently dealt with such an issue arising from academic travel) can be legitimately considered too by a State as it decides how to spend its money to finance the travel of its employees.
We accept — in the absence of clear guidance from Congress or the Supreme Court — that a State’s decision to use its money to fund academic work in country “A” but not country “B” is not an imper
missible sanction against “B” and is not beyond a State’s valid powers. The spending and education decision neither conflicts with the federal sanctions laws nor more than incidentally invades the realm of federal control of foreign affairs. At least, this record will not support such a conclusion.
Plaintiffs draw our attention to some other Supreme Court decisions that involve preemption and foreign affairs more broadly than a conflict of a state statute with a federal law or system of laws. We acknowledge the possibility of preemption based on federal foreign affairs powers. We know it has happened. We have studied Zs
chernig v. Miller,
389 U.S. 429, 88 S.Ct. 664, 19 L.Ed.2d 683 (1968).
But unlike the Oregon statute and practice in
Zschemig,
Florida is not asking in its Act — even in the Act’s application — for proof about the conduct of any foreign government or making a judgment about that conduct which is apart from the federal government’s own announced judgment.
See id.
at 667. Florida accepts altogether the list published by the Executive Branch of the United States. Florida in this Act does not entangle itself with foreign laws or foreign officials. The potential for embarrassment to the federal government,
see id.,
that could come from all that is lacking here.
And we have also paid attention to
American Insurance Ass’n v. Garamendi,
539 U.S. 396, 123 S.Ct. 2374, 156 L.Ed.2d 376 (2003). In that case, the Supreme Court concluded that a California insuranee statute interfered with the federal government’s conduct of foreign relations and was therefore preempted.
Id.
at 2379. That case involved a clear federal foreign policy position on Holocaust-era claims evidenced by, among other things, international agreements by our country’s Executive Branch, official correspondence by a high-level member of the Executive Branch, and the historical role of the Executive Branch in dealing with wartime claims resolution.
Id.
at 2384-85. But we do not have that kind of powerful evidence of a clear and express foreign policy here.
On this record, nothing shows to us that a definite substantive foreign policy position exists in favor of academic travel — ■ much less in favor of travel to countries that sponsor terrorism — that could be undermined by Florida’s Act. No clear conflict between federal policy and state law á la
Garamendi
is presented here. But, even if some indistinct desire on the part of the Executive Branch or Congress to encourage generally academic travel has been shown,
the strength of Florida’s traditional state interest in managing its own spending and the scope of its academic programs is sufficient to overcome the conflict given the lack of the conflict’s clarity and severity.
See id.
at 2389 (“[I]t would be reasonable to consider the strength of the state interest, judged by standards of traditional practice, when deciding how serious a conflict must be shown before declaring the state law preempted.”).
The Florida Act’s limitation on state spending is not preempted by federal law or violative of the federal foreign affairs power. We affirm the district court’s decision with regard to state funds, but we reverse the judgment with regard to non-state funds administered at state expense. We vacate the district court’s permanent injunction barring enforcement of the pertinent state statute. We remand the case for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
AFFIRMED IN PART, REVERSED IN PART, INJUNCTION VACATED, AND REMANDED.