DECKERS OUTDOOR CORPORATION, Case No. 23-cv-04850-AMO (LJC)
Plaintiff, ORDER REGARDING JOINT v. DISCOVERY LETTER ADDRESSING DISCOVERY CUTOFF DISPUTES Re: Dkt. No. 114 Defendant.
The Court previously denied an application by Plaintiff Deckers Outdoor Corporation (Deckers) for a protective order to prevent Defendant Last Brand, Inc. (Quince) from obtaining discovery from Google through a subpoena served after the close of fact discovery, without prejudice to the parties filing a joint letter in compliance with this Court’s Standing Order. ECF No. 113. The parties have now filed that joint letter, which also addresses a dispute regarding documents first disclosed by Deckers after the close of fact discovery. ECF No. 114. The Court addresses those issues as follows. Quince served a subpoena on Google LLC on January 23, 2025 requiring production of two YouTube videos and documents sufficient to show when they were publicly available, as well as Google’s testimony at a deposition on February 7, 2025. ECF No. 112-3.1 Fact discovery closed several months earlier, on September 27, 2024. ECF No. 32. Further fact discovery taken after a cutoff date implicates the standard for relief from a
1 The Court takes note of the copy of the subpoena attached to Deckers’s unilateral application for scheduling order under Rule 16(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. “[T]he focus of the inquiry is upon the moving party’s reasons for seeking modification. If that party was not diligent, the inquiry should end.” Johnson v. Mammoth Recreations, Inc., 975 F.2d 604, 609 (9th Cir. 1992) (citation omitted). “Documents that have a direct bearing on the factual disputes in the case are the subject of fact discovery, which often (as here) concludes before expert discovery so that the parties may rely on a complete factual record to inform their own experts and depose their opponents’ experts.” United States v. N. E. Med. Servs., No. 10-cv-01904-CW (JCS), 2014 WL 7208627, at *5 (N.D. Cal. Dec. 17, 2014). Quince appears to have retained an expert to address whether the video is prior art to the patent at issue. Expert testimony may be relevant to discuss purported similarities between the shoes in the video and Deckers’s patent. It seems unlikely, however, that Quince would rely on its expert to opine on the question of whether or when the video was published to YouTube. (If Quince intended to do so, Quince presumably would not need to seek documents from Google directly addressing those issues.) The authenticity of the video and the date on which it was published are questions of fact, which should have been addressed during fact discovery. That said, Quince’s lack of diligence here is minimal. Quince asserts, and Deckers does not dispute, that “Quince produced the videos [to Deckers] during fact discovery.” ECF No. 114 at 3; see also id. at 2 (Deckers’s portion of the joint letter, acknowledging that at least one of the videos was produced on September 25, 2024). Quince’s counsel might have at least somewhat reasonably expected that there would be no dispute over whether a YouTube video was in fact published on the date the YouTube website states that it was. A more diligent attorney might have sought a stipulation of authenticity, served a request for admission, or obtained documents confirming authenticity before the close of fact discovery. But diligence is not a binary question, and “[d]iscovery under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is not a game of ‘gotcha.’” Martin v. Her, No. 2:18-cv-1658 KJN P, 2019 WL 13374981, at *2 (E.D. Cal. July 29, 2019) (quoting Grubbs v. Winn Dixie Props., LLC, No. CIV.A. 15-182, 2015 incompatible with diligence as to preclude the very limited discovery at issue. Preventing Quince from obtaining evidence merely to confirm an issue of date and authenticity that does not appear (from the limited record before the Court) to be reasonably subject to dispute would not serve the interests of justice. As the Northern District of Illinois held when faced with a somewhat similar dispute:
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DECKERS OUTDOOR CORPORATION, Case No. 23-cv-04850-AMO (LJC)
Plaintiff, ORDER REGARDING JOINT v. DISCOVERY LETTER ADDRESSING DISCOVERY CUTOFF DISPUTES Re: Dkt. No. 114 Defendant.
The Court previously denied an application by Plaintiff Deckers Outdoor Corporation (Deckers) for a protective order to prevent Defendant Last Brand, Inc. (Quince) from obtaining discovery from Google through a subpoena served after the close of fact discovery, without prejudice to the parties filing a joint letter in compliance with this Court’s Standing Order. ECF No. 113. The parties have now filed that joint letter, which also addresses a dispute regarding documents first disclosed by Deckers after the close of fact discovery. ECF No. 114. The Court addresses those issues as follows. Quince served a subpoena on Google LLC on January 23, 2025 requiring production of two YouTube videos and documents sufficient to show when they were publicly available, as well as Google’s testimony at a deposition on February 7, 2025. ECF No. 112-3.1 Fact discovery closed several months earlier, on September 27, 2024. ECF No. 32. Further fact discovery taken after a cutoff date implicates the standard for relief from a
1 The Court takes note of the copy of the subpoena attached to Deckers’s unilateral application for scheduling order under Rule 16(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. “[T]he focus of the inquiry is upon the moving party’s reasons for seeking modification. If that party was not diligent, the inquiry should end.” Johnson v. Mammoth Recreations, Inc., 975 F.2d 604, 609 (9th Cir. 1992) (citation omitted). “Documents that have a direct bearing on the factual disputes in the case are the subject of fact discovery, which often (as here) concludes before expert discovery so that the parties may rely on a complete factual record to inform their own experts and depose their opponents’ experts.” United States v. N. E. Med. Servs., No. 10-cv-01904-CW (JCS), 2014 WL 7208627, at *5 (N.D. Cal. Dec. 17, 2014). Quince appears to have retained an expert to address whether the video is prior art to the patent at issue. Expert testimony may be relevant to discuss purported similarities between the shoes in the video and Deckers’s patent. It seems unlikely, however, that Quince would rely on its expert to opine on the question of whether or when the video was published to YouTube. (If Quince intended to do so, Quince presumably would not need to seek documents from Google directly addressing those issues.) The authenticity of the video and the date on which it was published are questions of fact, which should have been addressed during fact discovery. That said, Quince’s lack of diligence here is minimal. Quince asserts, and Deckers does not dispute, that “Quince produced the videos [to Deckers] during fact discovery.” ECF No. 114 at 3; see also id. at 2 (Deckers’s portion of the joint letter, acknowledging that at least one of the videos was produced on September 25, 2024). Quince’s counsel might have at least somewhat reasonably expected that there would be no dispute over whether a YouTube video was in fact published on the date the YouTube website states that it was. A more diligent attorney might have sought a stipulation of authenticity, served a request for admission, or obtained documents confirming authenticity before the close of fact discovery. But diligence is not a binary question, and “[d]iscovery under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is not a game of ‘gotcha.’” Martin v. Her, No. 2:18-cv-1658 KJN P, 2019 WL 13374981, at *2 (E.D. Cal. July 29, 2019) (quoting Grubbs v. Winn Dixie Props., LLC, No. CIV.A. 15-182, 2015 incompatible with diligence as to preclude the very limited discovery at issue. Preventing Quince from obtaining evidence merely to confirm an issue of date and authenticity that does not appear (from the limited record before the Court) to be reasonably subject to dispute would not serve the interests of justice. As the Northern District of Illinois held when faced with a somewhat similar dispute:
There may be no dispute as to the authenticity or admissibility of many or even the majority of these documents. As to documents for which there are disputes, however, there should be a process by which a party can make a record concerning the authenticity or admissibility of those documents. Allowing this type of limited evidentiary discovery to proceed close to or after the end of fact discovery seems to be an efficient way to deal with the issue, and it potentially could narrow the number of disputes that must be presented to the Court for resolution. In re Broiler Chicken Antitrust Litig., No. 1:16-CV-08637, 2020 WL 4349889, at *3 (N.D. Ill. July 29, 2020). The Court therefore DECLINES to prevent compliance with the subpoena to the extent that it seeks documents supporting the authenticity of the videos and the date of their publication, as well as any limited deposition testimony that might be necessary to authenticate those documents. Quince has represented that it does not seek substantive deposition testimony. See ECF No. 114 at 3 & n.4 (asserting that Quince “merely seeks authentication,” and would “accept a custodian certification” in lieu of deposition testimony). In an abundance of caution, the Court ORDERS that Quince may not question Google at the deposition except as may be needed to confirm the authenticity of documents produced. This Order rests on the premise that Quince seeks only evidentiary substantiation of facts not reasonably subject to dispute. It is at least conceivable, however, that this issue is more complex that it appears on its face. If, after Google responds to Quince’s subpoena, there remains some basis to dispute the authenticity of the videos or the date on which they were published, this Order is without prejudice to an argument by Deckers that it was prejudiced by the timing of Quince’s subpoena—for example, if Deckers would have had reason to further explore those issues in discovery if the subpoena had been timely served. 1 subpoena. 2 I. DECKERS’S NEW DOCUMENTS 3 The parties do not appear to have met and conferred sufficiently regarding a set of 4 documents that Deckers first disclosed in conjunction with an expert report. It is not clear when 5 Quince first raised its objection to those documents, but the parties only met and conferred one 6 day before filing this joint letter, and Deckers objects to the inclusion of this issue in the joint 7 letter. ECF No. 114 at 5. The parties are directed to review Judge Spero’s decision in United 8 States v. North East Medical Services, which excluded a large number of documents that a party 9 disclosed for the first time with an expert report, but noted that the “outcome might differ if 10 NEMS’s expert had located the documents in the course of his analysis” rather than having been 11 provided those documents by counsel. 2014 WL 7208627, at *5. 12 This Court tends to agree with Deckers that a request to strike portions of an expert report 13 || or exclude documents attached thereto from evidence should be addressed to the presiding judge 14 in the first instance, as it may implicate issues closely intertwined with a more substantive 15 Daubert motion or motion for summary judgment. Or, depending on the circumstances, it might 16 be more suitable for resolution by the discovery referral judge. In North East Medical Services, a 3 17 || notice on the docket confirmed specifically that the motion to strike was referred to Judge Spero. 18 Case No. 10-cv-1904-CW, ECF No. 194 (Dec. 11, 2014). Should Judge Martinez-Olguin choose 19 to refer this issue specifically, the undersigned stands ready to consider it. 21 Dated: January 31, 2025 22 73 Zr Arty — A J. CISNEROS 24 ited States Magistrate Judge 25 26 27 28