Carroll v. Forsyth

69 Ill. 127
CourtIllinois Supreme Court
DecidedSeptember 15, 1873
StatusPublished
Cited by38 cases

This text of 69 Ill. 127 (Carroll v. Forsyth) is published on Counsel Stack Legal Research, covering Illinois Supreme Court primary law. Counsel Stack provides free access to over 12 million legal documents including statutes, case law, regulations, and constitutions.

Bluebook
Carroll v. Forsyth, 69 Ill. 127 (Ill. 1873).

Opinion

Mr. Justice Scholpield

delivered the opinion of the Court:

We propose only to consider the question whether, under the evidence, the Statute of Limitations is a defense to appellee’s Maim, or any portion of it. His claim is for services as superintendent and bookkeeper, rendered the intestate, in a distillery in Peoria, from 1860, until July 1, 1864. There is no question but that more than five years had elapsed after the claim was due, before the commencement of the suit, but appellee relies upon a payment and subsequent promise within five years. The evidence relied upon to establish the subsequent promise and payment, is that of Robert M. Cox, the brother-in-law of appellee, and the following is the only portion of it which relates to these questions :

“ Carroll came to me once, and asked me how much money I loaned Forsyth, and I told him $3500; and he told me not to ask Forsyth for the money, that he would pay it to me in a short time; that was in the fall of 1864; it was after the business had been wound up. I can not say when they wound their business up, but I had stopped my distillery at that time. I do not know exactly when they did stop their distillery.

At several different times after that, he had promised to pay me the money from one time to another; one time that I am positive of was in 1866, in March, I believe. I went to Carroll and told him that I needed the money, and wanted to know if he could let me have some ; that was in Peoria I met him at that time, and I told him I was going away, next day, to Kewanee, and he promised me that he would raise some money and give it to Forsyth, or send it to me. In a few days after that I received $500.

I guess I have had conversations a dozen different times after that, here in Chicago as well. I came here at different times to see him, and to see if I could get the money from him.

I think the last conversation was at the Board of Trade in Chicago, and it was either in the fall of 1869 or 1870,1 am not positive which, and that he told me he had a large deal in wheat and pork, and just as soon as he wound up that deal he would pa}* me.

Mr. Carroll told me that he had—just as I stated before— that he had considerable money invested in pork and wheat, and just as soon as he got that deal settled up he would settle and pay me the balance.

The only time that I remember of him promising to pay interest, was the first time he came to me and told me not to ask Forsyth for money, that he would pay me, and would pay me interest on the money; I do not think there was any rate of interest mentioned.

Q,. Now then, Mr. Cox, I will ask you, sir, how Mr. Carroll came to make this promise to you; what was the basis of this promise ?

A. Well, I do not know'; I had nothing to do with Carroll; he came to me himself and told me that he owred Forsyth this money, and that he told him—I think it wras before he went to Washington—that he had told Forsyth to pay me,. I suppose, and draw the money out of the business, and when Forsyth came for the money, he told me Carroll was in Washington.

Q,. What was the amount he agreed to pay ?

A. $3500.

Q,. That is the amount that he said he owed Forsyth at that time?

A. He didn’t state to me he owed him any amount.

Q,. Was it stated then, generally, that he was indebted to him generally?

A. He didn’t say anything about the exact amount, but told me that he would pay me $3500 for Henry Forsyth—that wras the amount Forsyth was owing me. I paid $3500 to Peter Spencks, the man I bought the house from ; I bought it for Forsyth; he said he was owing him, but did not say any particular amount.”

On cross-examination, he testified further as follow's:

Q. “ How much of this $3500 has ever been paid?
A. I suppose there is about $2000 owing to me.

Q,. Who paid this $500 that you speak of—that is, who did you get it from ?

A. It was sent to me from Peoria by Forsyth.

Q,. Then you do not know of your own knowledge who Forsyth got it from ?

A. Well, Carroll told me that he—in Chicago, after that time—he asked me if Mr. Forsyth sent me $500; I told him he did. He told me he gave Forsyth $500 to send to me. I think that conversation was in 1866; it might have been two or three months, or may be more, after I secured the $500. I received the $500 along about the last of March—can not fix the exact date; it was either a check or a draft—I am not positive—it was one, I think ; think it was Carroll’s.”

The law, as recognized by this court, is, that to remove the bar of the Statute of Limitations it is incumbent on the plaintiff to prove an express promise to pay the money, or a conditional promise with a performance of the condition, an unqualified admission that the debt is due and unpaid, nothing being said or done at the time rebutting the presumption of a promise to pay—it must be of such a character as to clearly show a recognition of the debt, and an intention to pav it. Parsons v. Northern Illinois Coal and Iron Co. 38 Ill. 433; Ayers v. Richards, 12 id. 148; Norton v. Colby, 52 id. 199.

It will be observed that it does not appear from this evidence what amount Carroll owed appellee, or that the undertaking to pay the witness was for the purpose of paying such indebtedness. In Roll v. Morrison, 1 Peters, 362, Mr. Justice Story said : “ If there be no express promise, but a promise to be raised by implication of law, from the acknowledgment of the party, such acknowledgment ought to contain an unqualified and direct admission of a previous subsisting debt, which the party is liable and willing to pay. If there be accompanying circumstances which repel the presumption of a promise or intention to pay, if the expressions be equivocal, vague and indeterminate, leading to no certain conclusion, but at best to probable inference, which may affect different minds in different ways, we think they ought not to go to the jury as evidence of a new .promise to revive the cause of action.” So here, the utmost that can be claimed for this evidence is, that it raises a fair presumption that payment of a debt which Carroll owed appellee was intended by his promise to the witness; but as the evidence shows that appellee had been zealous and faithful in the discharge of his duties, was poor and dissatisfied with the compensation he had received, and the promise is not shown to have been made pursuant to an agreement between him and Carroll, or for the express purpose of paying what Carroll owed him, the presumption might as readily be indulged that it was intended as a gratuity, or a loan to be repaid at appellee’s convenience. The evidence is not sufficiently clear to show with any certainty with what intention the promise was made. Nor do we consider that the evidence of Baldwin tends to strengthen the evidence of Cox in this respect.

Free access — add to your briefcase to read the full text and ask questions with AI

Related

Ross v. St. Clair Foundry Corp.
271 Ill. App. 271 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1933)
Kehrer v. Weismueller
234 N.W. 690 (Supreme Court of Minnesota, 1931)
Swanson v. Willrett
254 Ill. App. 92 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1929)
Katt v. Estate of Chapman
248 Ill. App. 12 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1928)
American Steel Foundries v. Railroad Supply Co.
235 Ill. App. 228 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1924)
Harden v. Whitman
209 Ill. App. 106 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1917)
Hellen v. Hellen
170 Ill. App. 464 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1912)
West Publishing Co. v. Lasley
165 Ill. App. 256 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1911)
Nonotuck Silk Co. v. Pritzker
143 Ill. App. 644 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1908)
Walker v. Freeman
110 Ill. App. 404 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1903)
Tridell v. Munhall
124 F. 802 (U.S. Circuit Court for the District of Western Pennsylvania, 1903)
Boone v. A'Hern
98 Ill. App. 610 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1901)
Boyter v. Atkinson
96 Ill. App. 580 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1901)
Wetz v. Greffe
71 Ill. App. 313 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1897)
Freeman v. Walker
67 Ill. App. 309 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1896)
Whiteman v. McFarland
68 Ill. App. 295 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1896)
Ennis v. Pullman Palace Car Co.
46 N.E. 439 (Illinois Supreme Court, 1896)
Boone v. Colehour
46 N.E. 253 (Illinois Supreme Court, 1896)
Mandel v. Gundershimer
61 Ill. App. 332 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1895)
Honn v. Pinnell
61 Ill. App. 137 (Appellate Court of Illinois, 1895)

Cite This Page — Counsel Stack

Bluebook (online)
69 Ill. 127, Counsel Stack Legal Research, https://law.counselstack.com/opinion/carroll-v-forsyth-ill-1873.