Carr v. State

11 Ohio Cir. Dec. 353
CourtOhio Circuit Courts
DecidedJuly 1, 1900
StatusPublished

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Bluebook
Carr v. State, 11 Ohio Cir. Dec. 353 (Ohio Super. Ct. 1900).

Opinion

Marvin, J.

(Orally.-)

The original case, in the court of common pleas, was a prosecution under an indictment in which there were two counts, each charging Carr with murder in the first degree. Upon a trial the jury found him guilty of murder in the second degree, and after motion tor new trial [355]*355was overruled judgment was entered upon that verdict and sentence pronounced against Carr tor that crime.

A petition in error is filed here, together with a bill of exceptions containing all the evidence, with a prayer that the judgment of the court below be reversed.

The case is this: On May 4, 1900, in Copley township, in this county, one Sylvester Hull was killed, either by Gideon Carr or by himself and his son Edward Carr. There was a fight; on the one side were Gideon Carr and his son Edward, and on the other Hull, the deceased, and one Bramley.

Gideon Carr and Edward Carr were jointly indicted for this killing, and, as has already been said, each count in the indictment charged murder in the first degree. Gideon Carr demanded a separate trial, which was, of course, granted, and it is the judgment in that case which it is sought here to reverse.

Gideon Carr set up as his defense that what was done by him was in defense of himselt or ol his son Edward, or both, from being killed or very seriously injured by the deceased.

The plaintiff in error asked the court to appoint counsel to defend him. Edward Carr made the same request; and the court appointed to defend, Edward Carr, Mr. Nathan Morse of this bar, an experienced lawyer. Gideon Carr had asked to have Edwin F. Voris and Samuel G. Rogers, of this bar, both experienced lawyers, appointed. The court announced that but one attorney would be appointed in each case, that Mr Morse would be appointed in the case of Edward Carr; and alter some conversation between the court and counsel, the court appointed Mr. Voris to defend Gideon Carr, Rogers declining to take upon himself the responsibility alone of that defense. When the time came to impanel the jury, Mr. Rogers did not appear as counsel for the defendant, Judge Tibbals appearing, however, with the prosecuting attorney as counsel tor the state, the court having announced that no appointment would be made of anyone to assist the prosecuting attorney of the county. It is said that Judge Tibbals was retained by friends of the deceased. In any event two experienced lawyers appeared on the part of the state, to-wit, the prosecuting attorney and Judge Tibbals. When, however, the case came on to be tried Mr. Rogers appeared with the counsel tor the defense, Mr. Morse appearing with Mr. Voris in the defense also. Objection was made on the part of the prosecuting attorney to Mr. Rogers participating as counsel for the defense, arid the court finally decided, after a great deal of talking back and iorth between counsel and the court, that Mr. Rogers would not be recognized as counsel for the defense, and it is urged that there was error to the prejudice of Carr in the holding of the court in that regard.

It was doubtless a matter of discretion with the court whether Mr. Rogers should be recognized as counsel or not, and it was urged upon the court that as the jury was impaneled without any knowledge that Mr. Rogers was to appear, the state had not, or might not, have exercised exactly its challenges as it would have done it if had known that Rogers was to appear. Mr Rogers stated to the court, however, that he was not attorney for any of the members of the jury, nor related to any, but the court, in the exercise of its discretion, said that Mr. Rogers would not be recognized as counsel.

We are not satisfied that there was such an abuse of that discretion as would justify a reversal on that ground.

[356]*356Again, it is urged there was error on the'part ot the court in its ruling upon the introduction of evidence, and that one of the errors in that regard grew out of this state of facts. The state had introduced its evidence m chief and rested. The prisoner introduced his evidence and rested; some of the evidence of the prisoner tended to show that what he did was'done in defending himself, or his son, or both of them, against an attack made by Hull upon them. Nothing, however, was shown, or attempted to be shown by the prisoner as to the character or reputation ot the deceased for peaceableness or the contrary. It was, however, shown that he was a large and strong man.

The state then, in rebuttal, introduced David Bunn, as a witness, and, among other things, asked him if he had the means of knowing the general reputation of the deceased in the neighborhood in which he, the deceased, lived, as to peaceableness and quietness. To this the witness answered in the affirmative. He was then asked this question, as appears on page 357 of the bill of exceptions, “What was that reputation, good or bad?” Objection was made to this question; that objection was overruled, and the proper exception taken, and the witness then answered “Good.” " Other witnesses to the same effect were introduced on the part of the state, among them Theodore Patrick, Milton Thompson, John F. Moore, C. C. Frederick and Newman Adair. As to the question raised upon each of these witnesses counsel for plaintiff in error urges that the ruling ot the court was wrong, and the evidence permitted to be given was prejudicial to the prisoner.

Perhaps it is not claimed on the part of the state that the evidence elicited on’ this subject was not to the prejudice ot Carr if it was not competent, but it is urged that such evidence is entirely competent.

In argument it is said that this evidence was properly in rebuttal of what the prisoner had introduced on the defense as to Hull’s being a large, strong man. It would seem that the way to have rebutted that would have been to show that the fact was otherwise, that he was not a large, strong man. Evidence that he was a quiet, peaceable man would have no tendency to show that he was not both large and strong.

The only authority to which the attention of this court has been called in support of the ruling of the trial court in this regard, is a case decided by the Supreme Court of Indiana, Thrawley v. State, 55 N. E. Rep., 95. The eighth clause of the syllabus in that case is directly in point, and reads: “Where the defendant testified that he killed deceased in self defense while the latter was committing an apparently felonious assault on him, the prosecution may, without defendant’s consent, and though no evidence has been introduced against deceased to show that his reputation for peaceableness is bad, show that deceased had the reputation of being a peaceable man.” And in the opinion, on page 98, the court gives the reasons for that holding, and quotes from two other cases in Indiana, one of which distinctly holds as the court held in this case, and the other seems so to hold, though it is said in the opinion that the record is not so complete as to show how the question arose in that case.

On the other hand, authorities are so numerous as to seem to justify the statement of counsel for the plaintiff in error, that the Supreme Court of Indiana is alone in holding such evidence competent when the character of the deceased for peaceableness has not been attacked by the defendant.

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