MEMORANDUM DECISION
DENNIS MONTALI, Bankruptcy Judge.
I.
Introduction
The debtor in this Chapter 13 case (“Debt- or”) has proposed a Chapter 13 plan whereby she will pay secured creditors in full, with no dividend to be paid to unsecured creditors. The plan attempts to deny priority (and thus leave completely unpaid) attorney’s fees and expenses that are part of a state court judgment in an action for the custody of Debtor’s minor daughter (“Child”). The attorney’s fees are owed to Aleta Beaupied, Esq. (“Beaupied”) and the expenses are claimed by Child’s father (“Father”).
Beaupied, the court appointed attorney for Child in the custody proceeding, filed this adversary proceeding to establish that the debt for her fees would be nondischargeable under § 523(a)(5)
and thus should be given priority under § 507(a)(7).
Father, in his objection to confirmation of the plan, seeks to establish priority status under § 507(a)(7) for fees he has advanced to court-appointed experts.
Because both Father’s and Beaupied’s matters involve essentially the same issues, they have been combined by agreement of the parties and the court. The court heard the matter on January 22, 1996. Melanie Darling, Esq. appeared for Debtor, Kenneth
R. Wachtel, Esq. appeared for Father, and Brian J. McCaffrey, Esq. appeared for Beau-pied. For the reasons set forth below, the court exercises its discretion to declare both the whole of Beaupied’s fees and the whole of Father’s expenses entitled to reimbursement under a state court order entitled to priority under § 507(a)(7). Thus, confirmation of Debtor’s Chapter 13 plan must be denied.
II.
Factual
Background,
Although Father and Debtor were never married, Father is the undisputed father of Child. On July 8, 1992, Debtor filed a complaint in the San Francisco Superior Court (“State Court”),
[Debtor] v. [Father]
(Case No: FL 003002) against Father to establish his parental relationship. She also sought child custody of and visitation with her daughter. During the course of the custody action, various neutral experts were appointed by the State Court for certain tasks and Beaupied was appointed to represent Child’s interests.
Judgment in the State Court was issued on May 17, 1995, awarding sole legal and physical custody of Child to Father. The order also established the amounts of expert and attorney’s fees that Debtor and Father were to pay. Debtor’s obligations pertinent to Father and Beaupied are discussed below.
The State Court judgment required Father and Debtor to share the costs of the various neutral experts given tasks by the State Court in the custody case. These experts, their roles in the custody case, and the State Court allocation of responsibility for their fees follows:
1. Dr. Alex C.N. Leung was appointed by San Francisco Child Protective Services (stipulated by Debtor) for the purpose of determining the truth and accuracy of Debt- or’s allegations of child molestation against Father. Dr. Leung’s fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $1,462.
2. Dr. Alice Green was the Pareni/Child Visitation Supervisor retained to supervise visitation between Father and Child during the period Debtor’s false allegations of child molestation against Father were being investigated. Dr. Green’s fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $3,975.
3. Dr. Stephen Seligman was appointed by the State Court to prepare and present child custody evaluations in the custody action. His fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $7,667.
4. Dr. Donald B. Cliggett was appointed by the State Court to perform psychological tests on Debtor and Father for the purpose of preparing and presenting the child custody evaluation. His fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $6,500.
5. Dr. Ernest A. Dernburg is Child’s court-appointed therapist before and after the State Court custody action. His fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $5,890.
6. Jeanne Ames is the family law mediator, who, pursuant to the stipulation of all parties, acted as special master/referee in the early stages of the custody action. The State Court judgment allocated Father two-thirds and Debtor one-third responsibility for her fees, with Debtor ordered to pay $6,887.
Since Father advanced most of Debtor’s share of the neutral expert fees, the State Court found him entitled to reimbursement to the extent he “paid more than his share as allocated by the court.” In addition to the above neutral expert fees totaling $32,381 that Debtor is to pay, Dr. Dernburg has accrued additional fees since the date of the State Court judgment which Father contends are entitled to similar priority. In total, Father has proven that he advanced $33,692 of Debtor’s share. Father has requested the court find this entire amount entitled to § 507 priority.
Besides reimbursing Father for the expert’s fees, Debtor was also ordered to pay one-third of Beaupied’s fees and costs up to February 28, 1995, or $10,579. On June 13, 1995, the State Court issued an order to clarify its earlier judgment, specifically noting that Debtor’s obligations included paying
one-third of all of Beaupied’s additional charges billed after February 28, 1995. Thus, Beaupied seeks, as of November 30, 1995, a determination of § 507 priority as to $14,694.70 of her claims for fees against Debtor.
III.
Discussion
A.
Determining whether a claim for child support is a priority claim in a Chapter IS case should involve consideration of cases interpreting § 523(a)(5)
In 1994, Congress expanded the protections offered to spousal and child support obligations under the Bankruptcy Code.
In this regard, a new § 507(a) priority claim was added for:
(7) Seventh, allowed claims for debts to a spouse, former spouse,
or child of the debt- or,
for alimony to, maintenance for, or
support of such
spouse or
child in connection with
a separation agreement, divorce decree or other
order of a court of record
determination made in accordance with state or territorial law by a governmental unit, or property settlement, but not to the extent that such a debt—
(A) is assigned to another entity, voluntarily, by operation of law, or otherwise; or
(B) includes a liability designated as alimony, maintenance, or support, unless such liability is actually in the nature of alimony, maintenance or support
11 U.S.C. § 507(a)(7) (emphasis added), as amended by the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1994 § 304(c), 108 Stat. 4133.
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MEMORANDUM DECISION
DENNIS MONTALI, Bankruptcy Judge.
I.
Introduction
The debtor in this Chapter 13 case (“Debt- or”) has proposed a Chapter 13 plan whereby she will pay secured creditors in full, with no dividend to be paid to unsecured creditors. The plan attempts to deny priority (and thus leave completely unpaid) attorney’s fees and expenses that are part of a state court judgment in an action for the custody of Debtor’s minor daughter (“Child”). The attorney’s fees are owed to Aleta Beaupied, Esq. (“Beaupied”) and the expenses are claimed by Child’s father (“Father”).
Beaupied, the court appointed attorney for Child in the custody proceeding, filed this adversary proceeding to establish that the debt for her fees would be nondischargeable under § 523(a)(5)
and thus should be given priority under § 507(a)(7).
Father, in his objection to confirmation of the plan, seeks to establish priority status under § 507(a)(7) for fees he has advanced to court-appointed experts.
Because both Father’s and Beaupied’s matters involve essentially the same issues, they have been combined by agreement of the parties and the court. The court heard the matter on January 22, 1996. Melanie Darling, Esq. appeared for Debtor, Kenneth
R. Wachtel, Esq. appeared for Father, and Brian J. McCaffrey, Esq. appeared for Beau-pied. For the reasons set forth below, the court exercises its discretion to declare both the whole of Beaupied’s fees and the whole of Father’s expenses entitled to reimbursement under a state court order entitled to priority under § 507(a)(7). Thus, confirmation of Debtor’s Chapter 13 plan must be denied.
II.
Factual
Background,
Although Father and Debtor were never married, Father is the undisputed father of Child. On July 8, 1992, Debtor filed a complaint in the San Francisco Superior Court (“State Court”),
[Debtor] v. [Father]
(Case No: FL 003002) against Father to establish his parental relationship. She also sought child custody of and visitation with her daughter. During the course of the custody action, various neutral experts were appointed by the State Court for certain tasks and Beaupied was appointed to represent Child’s interests.
Judgment in the State Court was issued on May 17, 1995, awarding sole legal and physical custody of Child to Father. The order also established the amounts of expert and attorney’s fees that Debtor and Father were to pay. Debtor’s obligations pertinent to Father and Beaupied are discussed below.
The State Court judgment required Father and Debtor to share the costs of the various neutral experts given tasks by the State Court in the custody case. These experts, their roles in the custody case, and the State Court allocation of responsibility for their fees follows:
1. Dr. Alex C.N. Leung was appointed by San Francisco Child Protective Services (stipulated by Debtor) for the purpose of determining the truth and accuracy of Debt- or’s allegations of child molestation against Father. Dr. Leung’s fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $1,462.
2. Dr. Alice Green was the Pareni/Child Visitation Supervisor retained to supervise visitation between Father and Child during the period Debtor’s false allegations of child molestation against Father were being investigated. Dr. Green’s fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $3,975.
3. Dr. Stephen Seligman was appointed by the State Court to prepare and present child custody evaluations in the custody action. His fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $7,667.
4. Dr. Donald B. Cliggett was appointed by the State Court to perform psychological tests on Debtor and Father for the purpose of preparing and presenting the child custody evaluation. His fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $6,500.
5. Dr. Ernest A. Dernburg is Child’s court-appointed therapist before and after the State Court custody action. His fees were to be shared equally, with Debtor ordered to pay $5,890.
6. Jeanne Ames is the family law mediator, who, pursuant to the stipulation of all parties, acted as special master/referee in the early stages of the custody action. The State Court judgment allocated Father two-thirds and Debtor one-third responsibility for her fees, with Debtor ordered to pay $6,887.
Since Father advanced most of Debtor’s share of the neutral expert fees, the State Court found him entitled to reimbursement to the extent he “paid more than his share as allocated by the court.” In addition to the above neutral expert fees totaling $32,381 that Debtor is to pay, Dr. Dernburg has accrued additional fees since the date of the State Court judgment which Father contends are entitled to similar priority. In total, Father has proven that he advanced $33,692 of Debtor’s share. Father has requested the court find this entire amount entitled to § 507 priority.
Besides reimbursing Father for the expert’s fees, Debtor was also ordered to pay one-third of Beaupied’s fees and costs up to February 28, 1995, or $10,579. On June 13, 1995, the State Court issued an order to clarify its earlier judgment, specifically noting that Debtor’s obligations included paying
one-third of all of Beaupied’s additional charges billed after February 28, 1995. Thus, Beaupied seeks, as of November 30, 1995, a determination of § 507 priority as to $14,694.70 of her claims for fees against Debtor.
III.
Discussion
A.
Determining whether a claim for child support is a priority claim in a Chapter IS case should involve consideration of cases interpreting § 523(a)(5)
In 1994, Congress expanded the protections offered to spousal and child support obligations under the Bankruptcy Code.
In this regard, a new § 507(a) priority claim was added for:
(7) Seventh, allowed claims for debts to a spouse, former spouse,
or child of the debt- or,
for alimony to, maintenance for, or
support of such
spouse or
child in connection with
a separation agreement, divorce decree or other
order of a court of record
determination made in accordance with state or territorial law by a governmental unit, or property settlement, but not to the extent that such a debt—
(A) is assigned to another entity, voluntarily, by operation of law, or otherwise; or
(B) includes a liability designated as alimony, maintenance, or support, unless such liability is actually in the nature of alimony, maintenance or support
11 U.S.C. § 507(a)(7) (emphasis added), as amended by the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1994 § 304(c), 108 Stat. 4133. This new provision is made applicable in Chapter 13 cases under § 1322(a)(2), mandating full payment of “all priority claims under section 507 of this title, unless the holder of a particular claim agrees to a different treatment of such claim” before a plan may be confirmed. 11 U.S.C. § 1322(a)(2).
The application of the new § 507(a)(7) in a Chapter 13 case appears to be an issue of first impression in Ninth Circuit. However, the similarity in language between § 507(a)(7) and § 523(a)(5) invites the conclusion that the case law interpreting the latter should be considered in applying the former.
See
3 L. King,
Collier on Bankruptcy,
¶ 507.04[7] (15th ed. 1995) (“The language of this new priority [§ 507(a)(7) ] follows the language of the exception from discharge for alimony, maintenance and support.... The reported cases and commentary on section 523(a)(5) should be considered ... ”). This conclusion was also reached in
In re Grady,
180 B.R. 461 (Bankr.E.D.Va.1995):
Notwithstanding the fact that the issue was brought under
§ 507(a)(7)(B), the plethora of case law discussing whether debts are “actually in the nature of support” under § 523(a)(5) is applicable and useful precedent in determining whether such debts should receive priority treatment.
Id.
at 464. This result is dictated by the general rules of statutory construction: that identical words and phrases used in different parts of the same act, such as the identical language in § 507(a)(7) and § 523(a)(5), are intended to have the same meaning.
Grady,
180 B.R. at 464 (citing
Gustafson v. Alloyd Co.,
— U.S. —, —, 115 S.Ct. 1061, 1067, 131 L.Ed.2d 1 (1995)).
The court agrees with the reasoning of
Grady.
Unless the literal application of a statute produces a result at odds with the intent of Congress, the plain meaning should be conclusive.
United States v. Ron Pair Enterprises, Inc.,
489 U.S. 235, 242, 109 S.Ct. 1026, 1030-31, 103 L.Ed.2d 290 (1989). The court cannot discern any meaningful reason why Congress would have intended for thé same language employed in § 507(a)(7) and § 523(a)(5) to be treated differently. Thus, for the purposes of this opinion, whether priority status be granted shall be dictated by first considering whether such debts would be dischargeable under § 523(a)(5).
B.
Fees Due State Court Appointed Attorney Representing Child in Custody Action Constitute
“Support”
and are Entitled to Priority Under § 507(a)(7)
Both Father and Beaupied’s claims require the court to reconcile the tension between the purpose of the Bankruptcy Code, to give the debtor a fresh start, and certain exceptions to that fresh start for support obligations to a spouse, former spouse, or child. On the one hand, the limits on dischargeability of debts contained in § 523 should be construed narrowly so as to assure that the basic policy of giving the honest debtor a fresh start is not frustrated.
Gleason v. Thaw,
236 U.S. 558, 562, 35 S.Ct. 287, 289, 59 L.Ed. 717 (1915);
In re Klapp,
706 F.2d 998, 999 (9th Cir.1983) (exceptions to discharge are to be construed strictly against creditors and in favor of the debtor’s right to discharge). On the other hand, authority of equal weight instructs the court that Congress has no intention of relieving debtors of the obligation to maintain and educate their children.
Wetmore v. Markoe,
196 U.S. 68, 77, 25 S.Ct. 172, 175-76, 49 L.Ed. 390 (1904). Further, the legislative history of the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1994 indicates the need for “greater protection for alimony, maintenance and support obligations owing to a spouse, former spouse, or child of a debtor in bankruptcy.”
While the court recognizes a split in this area,
persuasive authority in the Ninth Circuit and other circuits indicates that attorneys fees for the attorney representing a child in a custody action should be nondis-chargeable in a § 523(a)(5) case, and thus should be entitled to priority under § 507(a)(7).
Under the former Bankruptcy Act, the Ninth Circuit in
In the Matter of Catlow,
663 F.2d 960 (9th Cir.1981), agreed with the district court’s affirmation of the bankruptcy court’s finding that an attorney’s fees award in Arizona child custody proceeding was non-dischargeable.
Catlow
held that “as Catlow’s debt for legal services is founded upon his state-created obligation to support ... the debt is nondischargeable.”
Id.
at 963. Beaupied has argued that the Arizona statute
at issue in
Catlow
is similar to California Family Code § 3153
in that both direct the state court to order the parties to pay reasonable amounts for attorney’s fees in child custody actions. The court agrees with this analysis.
However,
Catlow
was decided on the basis of § 17(a) of the former Bankruptcy Act
and the court expressly reserved the question of whether the same result would be reached under the present Bankruptcy Code.
While approaches to the issue have varied in the circuits, several courts have answered in the affirmative.
In a case under the Bankruptcy Code,
Matter of Gwinn,
20 B.R. 233 (9th Cir. BAP 1982), the Bankruptcy Appellate Panel found that the rules excepting attorney’s fees in a custody action from discharge established in
“Catlow
have not been modified by the new Bankruptcy Reform Act.” 20 B.R. at 235.
Pauley v. Spong (In re
Spong), 661 F.2d 6 (2d Cir.1981) echoes this view on the impact of the new code: “Congress could not have intended that federal courts were to formulate bankruptcy law of alimony and support in a vacuum.” 661 F.2d at 9.
Spong
further noted that the majority of courts still looked to state law, and decided to “treat counsel fees as being within the definition of alimony, maintenance, and support.”
Id.
Recent cases from the Fifth Circuit and Tenth Circuit have also decided likewise.
Debtor argues that the debt would be dischargeable under § 523(a)(5) on the basis of
In re Spencer,
182 B.R. 263 (Bankr.E.D.Cal.1995).
Spencer
involved a reimbursement obligation owed to the county by a Chapter 7 debtor for support of minor children while they were lodged in juvenile hall. The court granted summary judgment for the debtor over the county’s objection to discharge because the debt “pursuant to Cal.Welf. & Inst.Code § 903 was owed and payable directly” to the county.
Id.
at 268.
The
Spencer
analysis maintained that the debt must be
“owed directly to the debtor’s children,”
and not just
“arising from, support of a debtor’s children.”
182 B.R. at 268 (emphasis in original).
Spencer
claimed that to do otherwise would “legislate” expansions to § 523(a)(5).
Id.
For its support,
Spencer
cited
In re Linn,
38 B.R. 762 (9th Cir. BAP 1984) for the statement, in dicta, that “[u]n-der a literal application of § 523(a)(5), to be nondischargeable a debt must be
owed specifically to the ‘spouse, former spouse, or child.’ ” Spencer,
182 B.R. 263, 267 (emphasis added in Spencer).
It appears that
Linn
was incorrectly relied upon by
Spencer.
The sentence immediately following the quoted language from
Linn
recognizes that “cases have created an exception to this requirement where the debt is owed to the attorney who represented the debtor’s spouse.” 38 B.R. 762, 763.
Linn
cited the
Spong
and
Gwinn
decisions (discussed
supra)
for this ease law exception.
Id. Linn
not only recognized but also distinguished this case law exception, by concluding that because the
Linn
debtor
alone
was ordered to pay attorney’s and psychiatrist’s fees for the minor child, the former spouse was not liable, making the debt dischargea-ble.
Linn,
38 B.R. 762 at 762-763. For these reasons, the court does not find
Spencer
instructive.
On the other hand, the
Catlow
reasoning remains highly persuasive. When a state court decides in the interest of a minor child to appoint an attorney to protect her interest in a custody proceeding, and then apportions responsibility for the fees between the parents of the child, the fees are “in the nature of support” for the child. These are the facts of the instant case. The State Court appointed Beaupied as Child’s attorney in the custody proceeding and responsibility for Beaupied’s fees was apportioned by the State Court under the directive of state statute
(Debtor was ordered to pay one-third of the fees in conjunction with custody case). Thus, it is a state statute created support obligation, the same as the one in
Catlow,
that is held to be nondischargeable.
Debtor has also plead in the alternative, contending that if Beaupied’s fees are found nondischargeable, they should still be denied priority because the fees are unreasonable. Debtor suggests the court apply the “manifestly unreasonable” test of
In re Smith,
131 B.R. 959 (Bankr.E.D.Mich.1991).
Smith
concerned the dischargeability of a property settlement of $25,000, holding that if that amount was intended to function as support, the nondebtor former spouse did establish that the amount and terms were reasonable by establishing that debtor was able to pay.
Id.
at 973.
The court finds
Smith
distinguishable:
Smith
was a case of a marital property settlement that
might
have been intended as support, thus reasonableness may be called into question. On the other hand, the intentions of the State Court in the present case are clear. The State Court had a statutory duty to appoint counsel only if in “the best interest of the minor child,” Cal.Family Code § 3150 (West, 1994), and the to determine a “reasonable” sum for counsel’s compensation. Cal.Family Code § 3153 (West, 1994). In carrying out this duty, the State Court issued a detailed order stating the exact amount due Beaupied.
. The State Court further clarified the order by noting that it covered Beau-pied’s fees for representing Child after the initial custody action. That the State Court, in appointing Beaupied as Child’s attorney, and granting her fees, intended to accomplish any good other than protecting Child’s interests has not been proven to this court. For the above reasons, the entire amount of Beaupied’s attorney’s fees would be nondis-chargeable under § 523(a)(5) via § 1328(a)(2) and thus is entitled to priority under § 507(a)(7).
C.
Reimbursement Due Father for Court Appointed Neutral Experts in Custody Action Constitutes “Support” and is Entitled to Priority Under § 507(a)(7)
The analysis for the fees of the court-appointed experts is the same as for Beau-pied’s fees. The court must determine whether they constitute “support” for Child. Father contends that the fees so do on the basis of Tenth Circuit decisions that the court finds persuasive and will follow.
The Tenth Circuit recently concluded that a debtor’s court ordered psychologist’s and guardian ad litem’s fees resulting from divorce/child custody proceedings were nondis-chargeable.
In re Miller,
55 F.3d 1487 (10th Cir.1995),
cert. denied,
— U.S. —, 116 S.Ct. 305, 133 L.Ed.2d 210 (1995). The
Miller
court followed the emphasis of another Tenth Circuit case on the “determination of whether a debt is in the nature of support, rather than the identity of payee.” 55 F.3d 1487, 1490, citing
In re Jones,
9 F.3d 878 (10th Cir.1993).
Jones
held that a debt from post-divorce custody proceedings to pay child suppoit and children’s health insurance was non-dis-chargeable because the term “support” is entitled to broad application, and generally encompasses the issue of custody. Besides basing its decision on the intent of Congress that genuine support obligations not be discharged, 9 F.3d at 880 (citing
Shine v. Shine,
802 F.2d 583, 588 (1st Cir.1986)), the court also noted that deciding otherwise would require “extensive hearings and fact-findings into the parties’ subjective motivations which is more appropriate to the state court than a bankruptcy court.”
Jones,
9 F.3d at 881.
While the court is not bound by either
Jones
or
Miller,
their logic remains highly persuasive. Even with a strict focus, the sole issue in this child custody action was the care and support of Child. Since Debtor and Father are unmarried, no marital dissolution alimony, support or property settlement issues were involved in the State Court order. The fees Debtor would like to discharge arose from a proceeding initiated for the sole benefit of her daughter’s interest.
The neutral expert fees in question resulted from evaluating the respective
abilities of Debtor and Father to provide adequate care and support for Child, as well as for counseling Child during the course of the custody action to protect her emotional and mental state.
Debtor cannot deny that such fees were in direct “support” of Child’s interest. The debt for these fees arose “in connection with a court order” granting custody to Father. A finding of nondiseharge-ability of the neutral experts’ fees is required under § 523(a)(5). Thus, in this Chapter 13 case, Father’s claims are entitled to § 507(a)(7) priority for all of the neutral expert fees claimed. The court holds that the State Court’s order requiring Debtor to reimburse Father for paying “more than his share” to these experts does not constitute an assignment of these debts that would take away priority status under § 507(a)(7)(A).
While Debtor has not addressed the “support” nature of the expert fees, she has requested that the court apply the § 523(a)(15) balancing test in her favor.
This subsection of § 523, however, is not at issue in this case. Neither the language nor the substance of § 523(a)(15) is relevant to a determination of priority status of a claim under § 507(a)(7). While an express § 523(a)(5) exception appears in § 1328(a), the section does not provide an exception for debts under § 523(a)(15).
See
5 L. King,
Collier on Bankruptcy,
¶ 1328.01[d][iii] & n. 50a (15th ed. 1995). This issue is immaterial to this case, since the court has held that the debts are entitled to priority in the Chapter 13 plan under § 507(a)(7), based on the conclusion that the debts would be covered by § 523(a)(5). There are no debts left to consider under § 523(a)(15) even if this case were in Chapter 7.
IV.
Disposition
For the reasons stated above, the entirety of Beaupied’s attorney’s fees that Debtor was ordered to pay under the State Court judgment are entitled to priority under § 507(a)(7). All of the neutral experts’ fees Debtor was ordered to reimburse Father under the State Court judgment are also entitled to § 507(a)(7) priority. Counsel for Father and Beaupied should prepare and submit one agreed form of judgment consistent with the foregoing, to be entered in both the adversary proceeding and the main case, and should comply with B.L.R. 9021-1 and B.L.R. 9022-1.