Curia, per Woodworth, J.
The defendant’s plea is good in substance, but bad on special demurrer; because the allegation how the words were understood, and in reference to what they were spoken, was proper evidence under the general issue. The plea amounts to the general issue.
The plaintiff, however, cannot, after replying, go back to the plea, unless it is bad in substance.
The question is, then, on the replication. . The defendant assigns for cause, that it puts in issue matter of record *and matter of fact; that it neither admits nor denies the pendency of the action in which the plaintiff was swórn as a witness; nor that he was sworn; nor that the circuit judge was authorized to swear him; nor that the question alleged in the pleas were agitated on the trial: nor that he ° r ° ’ swore to the facts alleged m the pleas; nor that what he swore was false; nor that the defendant spoke the words in [47] relation to the testimony specified in the plea; nor that he was so understood by the bearers.
The cases of Lytle v. Lee and Ruggles, 5 John. 112, and Plumb v. M’Crea, 12 John. 491, decide that the replication .de injuria sua, &c,, is bad, when the defendant insists on a right, and is good only when he insists on matter .of .excuse. [1]
[47-1]*47-1It will be observed that the defendant does not justify the speaking of the words as true; but places his defence [47-2]*47-2on the ground, that they were spoken in reference to eertain parts of the testimony which were not material to the [47-3]*47-3issue. It being admitted then, that the .words were spoken, is not the defence for speaking, clearly matter of excuse ? [47-4]*47-4The plea seems to admit that there was no right to charge the plaintiff with perjury; but he did make that charge, and wishes to be excused for so doing; for that the expression related to such parts of the plaintiff’s evidence as were not material, and, consequently, were not a ground of action. With respect to the objection that the replication attempts to traverse matter of fact and matter of record, it seems to me the statement of the cause pending was matter of inducement merely; which is no objection to the replication. 1 Chit. 581. But independent of this, the better opinion is, that where a plea contains matter of fact and matter of record, it may conclude to the country. This doctrine was recognized in Lyth v. Lee, 5 John. 114, as a general proposition; and is, I think, supported by the cases there cited.[2]
[47-5]*47-5My opinion is, that the plaintiff is entitled to judgment on the demurrer; with leave to the defendant to withdraw it on payment of costs.
Judgment for the plaintiff.
The instance of an entry to view waste proceeds on a special reason; (12 Mod. 582;) for suppose the lessor was seized in fee, such seizin would be involved in the issue. 12 Mod. 582.
If in any case the defendant justified under the warrant of a justice of the peace, (12 Mod. 582, 583,) or as servant of another, or Try his command, the replication must have been special, and admit or protest the warrant or commandment, and reply de injuria absque residua causa, or take issue simply on the warrant or commandment. Id.; 8 Co. 67 a, b; Lutw. 1459; Doc. Plac. 113, 114; 1 B. & P. 76 ; Com. Dig. Pleader, P.; Willes, 100, 101; 2 Saund. 295 b, n, 1; 2 Bro. Ab. Be son tort Bemesne, pi. 13, 15. However, in a late case it was held that de injuria was a good replication to a plea justifying cts servant of an occupier in turning out the plaintiff from the house, (Piggott v. Kemp, 1 Crom. & M. 197; ante, 594, n. (y,) and de injuria, is a good plea in bar to an avowry for a poor rate. Bardons v. Selby, 1 Crom. & M. 500; 3 Barn. & Adol. 2. So, “ when by the defendant’s plea any authority or power is mediately or immediately derived from the plaintiff, there, although no interest be claimed, the plaintiff ought to answer it specially, and shall not reply de injuria generally;” (8 Co. 67, 68; 1 B. &. P. 80; Com. Dig. Pleader, P. 22 ; 2 Saund. 295, n. 1; Stephen, 2d ed. 204; Willes, 96;) as if he justified by virtue of the leave, or license, or command of the plaintiff. Com. Dig. Pleader, P. 22; Summary Treat, on Pleading, 83; Bro. Ab. Be son tort, pi. 30; Ld. Raym. 104, 105, So when the defendant in his plea claims in his own right, or as lessee or servant of another, any right to [47-2]*47-2or interest in, the person, (Willes, 102,) personal property, (Yelv. 187; Cro. Jac. 225; Cro. Eliz. 539,) or real property, (8 Co. 67 a; 1 B. & P. 79 c, 80; Willes, 52, 99, 101, 102; Doc. Plac. 114; Com. Dig. Pleader, F. 21, &c.,) for a supposed injmy to which the plaintiff has declared; or any right of way, (Id. 1 B. & P. 79,) common, (Id.,) or other easement, &c.; (Id.) or rent issuing out of the land claimed in the declaration; (8 Co. 67 a; 1 B. & P. 76; Willes, 52; Com. Dig. Pleader, F. 21; Hooker v. Nye, 1 Crom. & Ros. 258; 4 Tyr. 777;) or right to enter for a distress for rent; (1 Crom. M. & Ros. 258; 4 Tyr. 777; dliter, as to a distress for poor-rate; 1 Crom. & M. 500; 2 B. & Adol. 2 ;) or if the plea contain matter of record not stated merely as inducement, (Willes, 103; note a; Com. Dig. Plead. E. 19, 20; 2 Leon. 81,) and of which a jury cannot be competent judges, as if the sheriff or his officer justify under process of a court of record; (8 Co. 67 a; Doc. Plac. 114; Com. Dig. Pleader, F. 20; Hardr. 6; 12 Mod. 580, 581, 582;) or if the defendant justify under the warrant of a justice of the peace; (12 Mod. 582, 583; Doc. Plac. 113;) or under a particular custom of a manor; (Com. Dig. Pleader, F. 20; Hob. 76; 3 Lev. 49 ; 8 Co. 67 a; Willes, 202;) or in some cases by authority of law, as to view waste; (Co. 67 b; Com. Dig. Pleader, F. 23; 42 Mod. 582;) in these cases the general replication As injuria is improper. See all the above cases, and 8 Co. 67; 1 B. & P. 79, 80; Doct. Plac. 114; Com. Dig. Pleader, F. 20, &c.; 4 Bing. 729; 1 M. & P. 723; S. C. 2 Y. & J. 304, 379; see the form, 3 Ch. Pl. In such instances the plaintiff must either deny the title, easement, warrant, &e., in particular; (Lutw. 1459 ;) or admitting, or in some cases protesting (which in effect admits those matters,) must reply, that the defendant, of his own wrong, and without the residue of the cause alleged by the defendant, committed the trespasses; in which case it will not be incumbent on the defendant to prove either of those matters so admitted or protested. 1 C. & J. 48. Where matter of record is denied, the replication should be merely nul iiel record. 3 Lev. 243, 244; Lutw. 1459.
Thus, where in trespass for taking the plaintiff’s servant, the defendant pleaded that the father of the person taken held of the defendant by knight’s service and died seized, and that the person taken being under age the defendant seized him as his ward, the general replication de injuria was held insufficient, the plea claiming an interest in the person claimed by the plaintiff in his declaration. Willes, 102; Yelv. 158; 1 Brownl. 215; Com. Dig. Pleader, E. 21. So, if in trespass for taking goods, trees, &c., the'defendant plead that he took them as tithe, or as a distress for rent, or as damage feasant, showing title thereto, the general replication will be improper. 1 Ch. Pl. 594, 695, 607 ; Cro. Jac. 225; Yelv. 157; Cro. Eliz. 639; Com. Dig. Pleader, E. 21; 1 B. & P. 76; Willes, 52, 99. But by the statute of sewers, and in the instance for distresses for poor’s-rates, exceptions are introduced; and where in a justiflcation of taking cattle damage feasant, the defendant sets out a title and does not rely merely on possession, the replication should be special. 1 Lev. 307: Com. Dig. Pleader.
[47-3]*47-3Other instances have already been sufficiently enumerated. It also seems, that though the plea claim no interest in the property mentioned in the plaintiff’s declaration, but merely contain matter of excuse, yet where such matter of excuse arises in part out of the seizin in fee of another, it is not-advisable to reply de injwria; because that replication is only allowed where in the plea an excuse is offered to personal injuries, and not even then if it relate to any interest in land, which would make, part of the issue; (1 B. & P. 80 ; Willes 102, 103 ; Cro. Jac. 598; Lord Raym. 640 ; 12 Mod. 582; Cro. Eliz. 639, 640; Yelv. 157, observed upon in Willes, 101; 2 Saund. 295, n. 1; 7 Price, 670;) there being a distinction in this respect between a plea relying merely on possession as inducement, and where an interest is pleaded by way of title. Cro. Car. 139; Ld. Raym. 120; Carth. 10.
There are also many cases in which, though the replication de injwria might not be objectionable upon demurrer, still it will not be proper to adopt" it, and it may be necessary in effect to confess and avoid the plea. Thus,if in trespass for an assault the defendant plead son assault demesne and the plaintiff did in fact commit the first assault, but can justify it as having occurred in defence of his house, &c., it would be improper to use the traverse de injuria, &c., and the plaintiff should reply his possession of the house, and defendant’s entry and refusal to quit, &c. And in an action for false imprisonment, where the defendant justifies the commitment as a magistrate for a bailable offence, in consequence of an information upon oath, the plaintiff, under the general replication de injwria sua propria, &c., cannot give in evidence a tender and refusal of bail, but ought to reply that matter specially. 2 Bla. Rep. 1165. But where in trespass for breaking and entering the plaintiff’s ship, and seizing and converting his goods, the defendants justified under a writ of fieri facias, to which the plaintiff replied de injuria sua propria absque residua causa, and now assigned that the defendants entered the ship and took the goods for other purposes than those mentioned in the plea; —it was held, that it was competent to the judge to leave it to the jury to say whether the goods were bona fids taken under the writ, or whether the execution was resorted to as a color for taking them to evade payment of freight, to which they would have been liable had the defendants accepted them under the bill of lading, and not to effect a levy by virtue of the writ.. 4 Bing. 729, S. C. affirmed in error, 1 M. & P. 783 ; 2 Y. & J. 304. See id. 79., In many cases, where it may not be absolutely necessary to reply specially, it may be advisable so to do in order to narrow the plaintiff’s evidence, and to compel the defendant to admit a part of his title. Willes, 204, 64; 1 East, 217.
Where de injwria is improperly replied, the defendant may demur generally, but the defect will be aided after verdict. Com. Dig. Pleader, F. 24; 3 Lev. 65; Hob. 76; Sir. T. Raym. 50.
The general replication de injuria, &c., is bad where a defendant justifies or insists on a right as justification, and is good only where he pleads matter of excuse: in such a case, the defendant is bound to traverse the right. Co-[47-4]*47-4burn v. Hopkins, 4 Wen. 577 Griswold v. Sedgwick, 1 Wen. 126; Plum v. M'Crea, 12 J. R. 591; Lytle v. Lee, 5 J. R. 112; Stickle v. Richmond, 1 Hill, 11. N. Y. Dig. Vol. 4, p. 1018, § 32.
The replication de injuria, &c., takes issue merely upon the excuse pleaded, and. if the excuse is to be avoided by new facts, they should be replied specially. Brown v. Bennett, 5 Cow. 181; Stickler v. Richmond, 1 Hill, 77. Ibid. § 40.
If the defence set up the matter of excuse, as contra-distinguished from matter of justification, a replication de injuria, &c., puts the excuse in issue. Hyatt v. Wood, 4 J. R. 150. Ibid. p. 1021, § 78.
[47-5]*47-5Gazley v. Price, 16 Johns. 261; Vide Manhattan Company v. Miller, 2 Caines, 60 ; Snyder v. Croy, 2 Johns. 428; Sherwin v. Bliss, 4 Vermont, 99; Sampson v. Henry, 11 Pick. 319; Hooper v. Jettison, 22 Pick. 250 ; Wait v. Maxwell, 4 Pick. 81; Hartwell v. Hemmenway, 1 Pick. 117; McClure v. Erwin, 3 Cowen, 313; Allen v. Crofoot, 1 Cow. 46; Vide Lytle v. Lec, 5 Johns; 112; Thomas v. Rumsey, 6 Johns. 26; Everitt v. Bartlett, 1 Spencer, 117; Benington Iron Co. v. Rutherford, 3 Harr. 468. A plea concluding with a verification, which ought to conclude to the country, will be stricken out on motion. Copperthwait v. Bummer, 3 Harr. 258. See Siemens v. Bowers, 1 Harr. 16; Carthrae v. Clarke, 5 Leigh, 268.