In the Court of Appeals Second Appellate District of Texas at Fort Worth ___________________________
No. 02-25-00237-CR ___________________________
ALBERT L. FLORES, Appellant
V.
THE STATE OF TEXAS
On Appeal from the 432nd District Court Tarrant County, Texas Trial Court No. 1801153
Before Birdwell, Wallach, and Walker, JJ. Memorandum Opinion by Justice Birdwell MEMORANDUM OPINION
Appellant Albert L. Flores appeals his conviction for aggravated sexual assault
of a child, a first-degree felony. See Tex. Penal Code § 22.021(a)(2)(B), (e). After the jury
found Flores guilty, he pled true to the enhancement paragraph in the indictment, and
the trial court assessed his punishment at confinement for life. In a single issue, Flores
argues that the trial court abused its discretion by designating an improper outcry
witness under Article 38.072 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure. Assuming,
without deciding, that the trial court abused its discretion by designating the wrong
person as the outcry witness and thereby improperly admitting hearsay, we nevertheless
hold that the error was harmless. Accordingly, we overrule Flores’s issue and affirm the
trial court’s judgment.
I. Background
The complainant, who was twelve years old at the time of trial, testified that when
he was eight years old, Flores sexually assaulted him multiple times. 1
Flores does not challenge the evidentiary sufficiency of his conviction; rather, he
argues that the trial court improperly designated Ceciley Koncaba, the forensic
interviewer, as the outcry witness and claims that her testimony was harmful.
A complete recitation of the sexual abuse is not necessary for the disposition of 1
this appeal; we discuss details pertinent to the disposition in the body of the opinion. See Tex. R. App. P. 47.1.
2 The trial court determined Koncaba’s status as the outcry witness at a preliminary
hearing. During the preliminary hearing, Koncaba testified that she had been employed
with the Children’s Alliance of South Texas (CAST) and had conducted a forensic
interview with the complainant on July 19, 2023. Koncaba testified that she believed
she was the first person over eighteen to whom the complainant had shared details
about the offense. In the same hearing, Flores introduced a police report with
conflicting information. According to the police report, the complainant’s mother had
called the Fort Worth Police Department in June 2023 to report that her son had been
sexually assaulted by Flores. Both Koncaba’s testimony and the police report included
similar details about the nature of the sexual assault against the complainant.
After the hearing concluded, the trial court—without any explanation of its
reasoning—designated Koncaba as the outcry witness.
During trial, Flores renewed his objection to Koncaba’s testimony, arguing that
she was not the proper outcry witness. The trial court overruled the objection,
permitting Koncaba to testify and granting Flores a running objection. Koncaba
testified about the nature of the sexual assault against the complainant—as she did
during the preliminary hearing—and she also testified that the complainant had told
her that Flores had put something on his penis during the abuse. Based on her interview
with the complainant and a drawing he made of the item, Koncaba believed that Flores
had used a condom.
3 On appeal, Flores alleges that the trial court abused its discretion by naming
Koncaba the outcry witness. He claims that this testimony harmed him because the
State emphasized Koncaba’s testimony and because Koncaba’s testimony about
condom use bolstered the complainant’s otherwise questionable testimony.
II. Standard of Review and Applicable Law
“Hearsay statements, while generally inadmissible, may be admitted under
specific conditions when public policy supports their use, and the circumstances
surrounding the making of those statements [guarantee] their reliability.” Martinez v.
State, 178 S.W.3d 806, 810 (Tex. Crim. App. 2005). Article 38.072, also known as the
outcry statute, creates a hearsay exception in certain child-sexual-offense prosecutions.
Tex. Code Crim. Proc. art. 38.072; Crump v. State, No. 02-24-00063-CR, 2025 WL 18288,
at *2 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Jan. 2, 2025, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for
publication).
Article 38.072 permits testimony from one outcry witness per event—that is,
“the first person, 18 years of age or older, other than the defendant, to whom the
child . . . made a statement about the offense.” Tex. Code Crim. Proc. art. 38.072,
§ 2(a)(3); see Crump, 2025 WL 18288, at *2; Gibson v. State, 595 S.W.3d 321, 326 (Tex.
App.—Austin 2020, no pet.). Courts construe “about the offense” to mean a statement
that “in some discernible manner describes the alleged offense.” Garcia v. State, 792
S.W.2d 88, 91 (Tex. Crim. App. 1990). “[T]he statement must be more than . . . a
general allusion” of sexual abuse. Id. Thus, the proper outcry witness is not necessarily
4 the first adult to whom the child revealed the abuse but, rather, the first adult to whom
the child revealed specific details concerning the offense. Id.; see, e.g., Moore v. State, No.
02-23-00152-CR, 2025 WL 353068, at *6–7 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Jan. 30, 2025, no
pet.) (mem. op., not designated for publication) (affirming trial court’s determination
that because a child’s prior statements to her mother lacked sufficient detail, the proper
outcry witness was an adult who later interviewed the child).
In addition, an adult who does not remember the outcry cannot be the outcry
witness. Petty v. State, No. 02-21-00130-CR, 2022 WL 4545532, at *5 (Tex. App.—Fort
Worth Sept. 29, 2022, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for publication); see, e.g.,
Foreman v. State, 995 S.W.2d 854, 859 (Tex. App.—Austin 1999, pet. ref’d) (holding that
victim’s mother and stepfather were not proper outcry witnesses when they both
testified that they had no memory of the outcry). A trial court may allow hearsay
testimony from more than one outcry witness if each witness testifies about different
offenses. See Crump, 2025 WL 18288, at *2; Gibson, 595 S.W.3d at 326.
Because of the difficulty that often arises in deciding who is a proper outcry
witness, trial courts maintain “broad discretion” over such decisions, which appellate
courts review under an abuse-of-discretion standard. Garcia, 792 S.W.2d at 92; see, e.g.,
Rodgers v. State, 442 S.W.3d 547, 552 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2014, pet. ref’d). Under this
standard, “a trial court’s ruling will only be deemed an abuse of discretion if it is so
clearly wrong as to lie outside ‘the zone of reasonable disagreement’ or is ‘arbitrary or
unreasonable.’” Mendez v. State, No. 03-19-00546-CR, 2021 WL 1148960, at *5 (Tex.
5 App.—Austin Mar. 26, 2021, no pet.) (mem. op., not designated for publication) (first
quoting Lopez v. State, 86 S.W.3d 228, 230 (Tex. Crim. App. 2002); and then quoting
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In the Court of Appeals Second Appellate District of Texas at Fort Worth ___________________________
No. 02-25-00237-CR ___________________________
ALBERT L. FLORES, Appellant
V.
THE STATE OF TEXAS
On Appeal from the 432nd District Court Tarrant County, Texas Trial Court No. 1801153
Before Birdwell, Wallach, and Walker, JJ. Memorandum Opinion by Justice Birdwell MEMORANDUM OPINION
Appellant Albert L. Flores appeals his conviction for aggravated sexual assault
of a child, a first-degree felony. See Tex. Penal Code § 22.021(a)(2)(B), (e). After the jury
found Flores guilty, he pled true to the enhancement paragraph in the indictment, and
the trial court assessed his punishment at confinement for life. In a single issue, Flores
argues that the trial court abused its discretion by designating an improper outcry
witness under Article 38.072 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure. Assuming,
without deciding, that the trial court abused its discretion by designating the wrong
person as the outcry witness and thereby improperly admitting hearsay, we nevertheless
hold that the error was harmless. Accordingly, we overrule Flores’s issue and affirm the
trial court’s judgment.
I. Background
The complainant, who was twelve years old at the time of trial, testified that when
he was eight years old, Flores sexually assaulted him multiple times. 1
Flores does not challenge the evidentiary sufficiency of his conviction; rather, he
argues that the trial court improperly designated Ceciley Koncaba, the forensic
interviewer, as the outcry witness and claims that her testimony was harmful.
A complete recitation of the sexual abuse is not necessary for the disposition of 1
this appeal; we discuss details pertinent to the disposition in the body of the opinion. See Tex. R. App. P. 47.1.
2 The trial court determined Koncaba’s status as the outcry witness at a preliminary
hearing. During the preliminary hearing, Koncaba testified that she had been employed
with the Children’s Alliance of South Texas (CAST) and had conducted a forensic
interview with the complainant on July 19, 2023. Koncaba testified that she believed
she was the first person over eighteen to whom the complainant had shared details
about the offense. In the same hearing, Flores introduced a police report with
conflicting information. According to the police report, the complainant’s mother had
called the Fort Worth Police Department in June 2023 to report that her son had been
sexually assaulted by Flores. Both Koncaba’s testimony and the police report included
similar details about the nature of the sexual assault against the complainant.
After the hearing concluded, the trial court—without any explanation of its
reasoning—designated Koncaba as the outcry witness.
During trial, Flores renewed his objection to Koncaba’s testimony, arguing that
she was not the proper outcry witness. The trial court overruled the objection,
permitting Koncaba to testify and granting Flores a running objection. Koncaba
testified about the nature of the sexual assault against the complainant—as she did
during the preliminary hearing—and she also testified that the complainant had told
her that Flores had put something on his penis during the abuse. Based on her interview
with the complainant and a drawing he made of the item, Koncaba believed that Flores
had used a condom.
3 On appeal, Flores alleges that the trial court abused its discretion by naming
Koncaba the outcry witness. He claims that this testimony harmed him because the
State emphasized Koncaba’s testimony and because Koncaba’s testimony about
condom use bolstered the complainant’s otherwise questionable testimony.
II. Standard of Review and Applicable Law
“Hearsay statements, while generally inadmissible, may be admitted under
specific conditions when public policy supports their use, and the circumstances
surrounding the making of those statements [guarantee] their reliability.” Martinez v.
State, 178 S.W.3d 806, 810 (Tex. Crim. App. 2005). Article 38.072, also known as the
outcry statute, creates a hearsay exception in certain child-sexual-offense prosecutions.
Tex. Code Crim. Proc. art. 38.072; Crump v. State, No. 02-24-00063-CR, 2025 WL 18288,
at *2 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Jan. 2, 2025, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for
publication).
Article 38.072 permits testimony from one outcry witness per event—that is,
“the first person, 18 years of age or older, other than the defendant, to whom the
child . . . made a statement about the offense.” Tex. Code Crim. Proc. art. 38.072,
§ 2(a)(3); see Crump, 2025 WL 18288, at *2; Gibson v. State, 595 S.W.3d 321, 326 (Tex.
App.—Austin 2020, no pet.). Courts construe “about the offense” to mean a statement
that “in some discernible manner describes the alleged offense.” Garcia v. State, 792
S.W.2d 88, 91 (Tex. Crim. App. 1990). “[T]he statement must be more than . . . a
general allusion” of sexual abuse. Id. Thus, the proper outcry witness is not necessarily
4 the first adult to whom the child revealed the abuse but, rather, the first adult to whom
the child revealed specific details concerning the offense. Id.; see, e.g., Moore v. State, No.
02-23-00152-CR, 2025 WL 353068, at *6–7 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Jan. 30, 2025, no
pet.) (mem. op., not designated for publication) (affirming trial court’s determination
that because a child’s prior statements to her mother lacked sufficient detail, the proper
outcry witness was an adult who later interviewed the child).
In addition, an adult who does not remember the outcry cannot be the outcry
witness. Petty v. State, No. 02-21-00130-CR, 2022 WL 4545532, at *5 (Tex. App.—Fort
Worth Sept. 29, 2022, pet. ref’d) (mem. op., not designated for publication); see, e.g.,
Foreman v. State, 995 S.W.2d 854, 859 (Tex. App.—Austin 1999, pet. ref’d) (holding that
victim’s mother and stepfather were not proper outcry witnesses when they both
testified that they had no memory of the outcry). A trial court may allow hearsay
testimony from more than one outcry witness if each witness testifies about different
offenses. See Crump, 2025 WL 18288, at *2; Gibson, 595 S.W.3d at 326.
Because of the difficulty that often arises in deciding who is a proper outcry
witness, trial courts maintain “broad discretion” over such decisions, which appellate
courts review under an abuse-of-discretion standard. Garcia, 792 S.W.2d at 92; see, e.g.,
Rodgers v. State, 442 S.W.3d 547, 552 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2014, pet. ref’d). Under this
standard, “a trial court’s ruling will only be deemed an abuse of discretion if it is so
clearly wrong as to lie outside ‘the zone of reasonable disagreement’ or is ‘arbitrary or
unreasonable.’” Mendez v. State, No. 03-19-00546-CR, 2021 WL 1148960, at *5 (Tex.
5 App.—Austin Mar. 26, 2021, no pet.) (mem. op., not designated for publication) (first
quoting Lopez v. State, 86 S.W.3d 228, 230 (Tex. Crim. App. 2002); and then quoting
State v. Mechler, 153 S.W.3d 435, 439 (Tex. Crim. App. 2005)).
The admission of erroneous outcry testimony is evaluated under Texas Rule of
Appellate Procedure 44.2(b). State v. Sanchez, 722 S.W.3d 58, 74 (Tex. App.—Fort
Worth 2025, pet ref’d). Rule 44.2(b) governs the review of nonconstitutional error. See
Tex. R. App. P. 44.2(b). Nonconstitutional error is disregarded unless it affects a
defendant’s substantial rights. Nguyen v. State, 693 S.W.3d 732, 740 (Tex. App.—
Houston [14th Dist.] 2024, no pet.) (citing Tex. R. App. P. 44.2(b)). An error affects a
defendant’s substantial rights when it has a substantial and an injurious effect or
influence on the jury’s verdict. Id. (citing King v. State, 953 S.W.3d 266, 271 (Tex. Crim.
App. 1997)). An error does not affect a substantial right if that error did not influence
the jury or had but a slight effect on the verdict. Macedo v. State, 629 S.W.3d 237, 240
(Tex. Crim. App. 2021).
When determining harm, we consider the entire record, including (1) the
character of the alleged error and how it might be considered in connection with other
evidence, (2) the nature of the evidence supporting the verdict, (3) the existence and
degree of additional evidence indicating guilt, and (4) whether the State emphasized the
complained-of error. Id. We also consider the jury instructions, the theories from the
prosecution and the defense, closing arguments, and even voir dire, if it is material to
the defendant’s claim. Nguyen, 693 S.W.3d at 740–41.
6 “In cases involving the improper admission of outcry testimony, the error is
harmless when the victim testifies in court to the same or similar statements that were
improperly admitted or other evidence setting forth the same facts is admitted without
objection.” Sanchez, 722 S.W.3d at 75 (quoting Galvan v. State, No. 08-23-00162-CR,
2024 WL 1599208, at *6 (Tex. App.—El Paso Apr. 12, 2024, no pet.) (mem. op., not
designated for publication)); see also Gibson, 595 S.W.3d at 327 (collecting cases holding
the same).
III. Analysis
Assuming without deciding that the trial court improperly designated Koncaba
as an outcry witness, such error did not harm Flores.
We first note that there was unobjected to testimony from other witnesses in
support of the verdict. Both the complainant’s and the sexual assault nurse examiner’s
(SANE nurse) testimony set forth details of the sexual abuse that were very similar to
those described in Koncaba’s testimony, making any error in admitting Koncaba’s
testimony harmless. See Sanchez, 722 S.W.3d at 75; Gibson, 595 S.W.3d at 327; Lamerand
v. State, 540 S.W.3d 252, 259 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2018, pet. ref’d).
Flores complains that one aspect of Koncaba’s testimony was not the same or
similar to the complainant’s testimony elicited during trial: Flores’s use of a condom
during the offense. The complainant testified that he did not recall Flores using a
7 condom;2 however, both Koncaba and the SANE nurse testified that, in their separate
conversations with the complainant about the abuse, he had described what each of
them suspected was a condom.3 Thus, because the SANE nurse’s testimony did not
necessarily contradict Koncaba’s testimony—and both witnesses testified that they
believed that the complainant could have been describing a condom—the admission of
Koncaba’s testimony about the condom did not affect Flores’s substantial rights.
Comparable to this court’s holding in Sanchez related to the admission of same or similar
testimony from a complainant, when evidence is admitted elsewhere without objection,
the erroneous admission of such evidence is harmless. See Patterson v. State, 508 S.W.3d
432, 448 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth 2015, no pet.) (citing Anderson v. State, 717 S.W.2d
622, 628 (Tex. Crim. App. 1986) (“Inadmissible evidence can be rendered harmless if
2 The complainant did not actually state that there was or was not a condom. Rather, during direct examination, he merely said, “No” when he was asked if he remembered whether Flores would ever “put” anything on his penis, “take anything out,” or “use” anything. 3 According to the testimony, Koncaba asked the complainant if Flores “put anything on his penis, or used anything during the abuse,” and the complainant drew a picture of a square with a circle inside. The complainant described the square as a black package that, when opened, had a “whiteish green” circle inside that Flores put around his penis. Koncaba testified that she thought this was a condom. The SANE nurse’s testimony included reading portions of her medical evaluation. For “condom,” the answer in the SANE nurse’s report was: “yes. Question mark.” The SANE nurse testified that she had included the question mark because when she had asked the complainant if a condom was used, he had described a “box in a package,” and she was unsure if it was a condom or something else. Despite Flores’s emphasis about this testimony on appeal, the use or absence of a condom during the sexual assault is not likely to have had a substantial impact on the jury’s evaluation of the evidence. See Nguyen, 693 S.W.3d at 740.
8 other evidence at trial is admitted without objection and it proves the same fact that the
inadmissible evidence sought to prove.”)); see also Britt v. State, No. 02-17-00168-CR,
2018 WL 2346795, at *2 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth May 24, 2018, pet. ref’d) (mem. op.,
not designated for publication) (“Because similar evidence to the forensic examiner’s
testimony either was not objected to or was not erroneously admitted, we would be
compelled to conclude that any error in the admission of the forensic interviewer’s
cumulative testimony was harmless.”).
Flores argues that the State emphasized the outcry during voir dire and during
closing argument. However, the part of the State’s closing argument that Flores points
to only mentions that Koncaba “had no concerns with [the complainant’s] outcry,”
because the complainant had “sensory and peripheral details” about the abuse.
Considering that this reference amounts to a couple of sentences in more than fifteen
pages of the State’s closing arguments, we disagree that the outcry was emphasized at
all, much less to the extent necessary to cause harm.
Further, what Flores points to as “emphasis” during voir dire constitutes the
State’s discussion of who in the panel had been “personally [a]ffected by child sexual
abuse.” Some of that conversation discussed past experiences with sexual abuse and
whether that abuse had been reported. None of that was related specifically to the
reliability of those who might have been confided in about another’s sexual abuse. We
likewise find that this argument is unsupported and unpersuasive, and we cannot
9 conclude that the discussion during voir dire had any substantial and injurious effect or
influence on the jury’s verdict. See Macedo, 629 S.W.3d at 240.
In sum, because the same or similar evidence about the sexual abuse that the
complainant suffered was admitted without objection, we cannot conclude that
Koncaba’s outcry-witness testimony had a substantial and injurious effect or influence
on the jury’s verdict. Accordingly, any error in designating Koncaba the outcry witness
was harmless. See Gibson, 595 S.W.3d at 327; Lamerand, 540 S.W.3d at 259. We overrule
Flores’s sole issue on appeal.
IV. Conclusion
Having overruled Flores’s sole issue, we affirm the trial court’s judgment.
/s/ Wade Birdwell
Wade Birdwell Justice
Do Not Publish Tex. R. App. P. 47.2(b)
Delivered: July 2, 2026